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    Nolva or nolva and clomid for pct?

    Ok after doing some reaserch i have found very mix opinions on this topic about half saying you need both and half saying either or would do first choice being nolva. My last cycle i didi the anthony roberts pct and it worked fine but always want to improve to maximise effects and want to know wich protocol to use on my next cycle

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    I always run clomid and nolva together for pct.

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    From what i have read its best to run both nolva and clomid.

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    I like going with nolva and clomid together

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    i tend to have access to clomid and not nolva. running clomid only isn't bad...right? just both would be better? my understanding is that clomid helps kickstart the kids while nolva combats gyno. i have never had troubles in this dept so have never feared not having any on hand. is my understanding correct?

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    you can get your pct chems from ar-r top right banner, they are legit.

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    I have always heard that running Nolva and Clomid is a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifterjaydawg View Post
    you can get your pct chems from ar-r top right banner, they are legit.
    Good tip.

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    I'm curoius about the benefit of both together as well. This sticky seems to claim there being little point in clomid with nolvadex

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...y-Steroid.com-)

    But of course with all the content on this site, I've yet to read a heavily scientific rebuttal argument

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gym Jones View Post
    I'm curoius about the benefit of both together as well. This sticky seems to claim there being little point in clomid with nolvadex

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...y-Steroid.com-)

    But of course with all the content on this site, I've yet to read a heavily scientific rebuttal argument
    Tamox is better at preventing gyno and the 2 drugs work very well together. They are both cheap so why risk it?

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    Just reading this bit,

    "Although both Nolvadex and Clomid are both SERMs, they are actually quite different. As you already know, Nolvadex is highly anti-estrogenic at the hypothalamus and pituitary, while Clomid exhibits weak estrogenic activity at the pituitary (7), which as you can guess, is less than ideal. It should be avoided for the PCT I’m suggesting…and in fact, avoided in general…it’s simply not as good as Nolvadex."

    It makes it seem like Clomid is just a waste to use if using Nolvadex (Tamoxifen ). Not that I am entirely agreeing with the author, more asking what the defense is in a scientific means for Clomid as a companion rather than not at all (as suggested by the author).

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    Both

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    haha...not entirely the scientific response for which I was searching, but I continue to poke the site. It's in here I'm sure.

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    yea I go with both nolva and clomid for pct, always worked well for me.

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    editI ran both on my two cycles but plan on running only nolva 40/40/20/20 on a 12 week cycle of sus.
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    Neither. 3000mg/day D-aspartic acid and 4000 mg's/day tribulus for 3 wks. You'll never go back to clomid or HCG

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    On AR-R Are those liquid oral or injectible clomi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gym Jones View Post
    On AR-R Are those liquid oral or injectible clomi?
    Orals.

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