Nolvadex and Aromisin advice

[Tlee8769]

Im currently running my first cycle. I have been training natural for about 10 years now im 26 years old 175 pounds 6 foot around 8%b/f. Im running a test e around 500ml per week for 12 weeks. Im getting alot of mixed reviews on the pct that i purchased any advice would be greatly appreciated.
14 days after last injection

wk 1-4
20mg Nolvadex 20mg aromasin and 1000 Iu of vitamin E
wk 4-6
20mg of Nolvadex

Thanks for any help.

[5x10]

i would run the aromasin until pct starts(which i would start 2.5-3 weeks after last shot to ensure blood levels have dropped)
i would also add 25mgs of clomid, run with nolva for 5 weeks
you might start the aromasin back up in low doses around week 4-5 as the nolva/clomid combo should be making your body produce test by then
you might look into running some hcg the last 3-4 weeks of the cycle to get your ledgye cells out of hibernation and working again(with aromasin)

[gethuge21]

im running the same 500mgs a week for 12 weeks but im using cyponate instead would that pct be the best for me too?

[5x10]

im running the same 500mgs a week for 12 weeks but im using cyponate instead would that pct be the best for me too?

its really the same thing for any cycle, im just regurgitating swifto pct protocol
read the threads, they are great and are backed with medical studies

[gethuge21]

ok thanks

[kelevra]

HCG is a great addition to PCT. and should be less harsh to the system as all the anti cancer medications (Nolva). You still need Nolva in PCt however properly dosed HCG should help reduce the amount. IMO!

[Tlee8769]

Clomid and nolva? This is what im talking about with mixed reviews i heard that Nolva and aromasin do pretty much the same thing only more effective correct i read a sticky thread here that said it was the best way to go with some hcg for the first 3 weeks after my last shot?

[kelevra]

PCT is like everything else. Some recover terribly and others easily. You have to find what works for you. As PCT meds can be bad for health as well. Nolva, Clomid, LEtro & ETC can be pretty tuff on your system over time. You want to get recovered, but you don’t want to overdo it.
Swifto’s thread for PCT and Ronnie Rowland’s threads have some very good useful info of the positives and negatives.

And yes your Nolva and Aromisin should be fine and yes you can run HCG right after cyle many different ways. 1 is to go 2500iu 2x weekly for 2 weeks. Just an example.

[kelevra]

im running the same 500mgs a week for 12 weeks but im using cyponate instead would that pct be the best for me too?

Yes, the only thing 5x10 and I don’t seem to agree on is timing. Test E should be 8-10 days clear & Test C something like 10-14. Both under 2 weeks. So the 2 weeks after last pin of either are good times to take HCG if you have not taken it throughout. (again there are many GOOD ways to run HCG) You could start Nolva and or Aromisin then or wait until the 2 weeks of HCG use is done. Some of that may depend on gyno sides.

[Tlee8769]

Thanks for the help. I plan on doing the aromisin for the fist 2 weeks at 20 mg per day then after then week 2-4 20mg aromisin 2-4 nolva 20 mg then 4-6 20 mg nolva does that sound alright. I understand that every person has different sides but i just want to have a clear idea if this will be good. Should i run the nolva a extra 2 weeks or is the 4 weeks good? i have everything on hand worst case scenario i just dont want to overdue it?

[kelevra]

Im currently running my first cycle. I have been training natural for about 10 years now im 26 years old 175 pounds 6 foot around 8%b/f. Im running a test e around 500ml per week for 12 weeks. Im getting alot of mixed reviews on the pct that i purchased any advice would be greatly appreciated.
14 days after last injection

wk 1-4
20mg Nolvadex 20mg aromasin and 1000 Iu of vitamin E][B]looks good, you might do 40 of Nolva for the first 7 to 14 days, your choice,scratch the weeks 4-6
wk 4-6 20mg of Nolvadex

Thanks for any help.

see if that works for ya

[Tlee8769]

Thanks for the help. You think i should stick to the nolva or maybe go with the clomid?

[kelevra]

Thanks for the help. You think i should stick to the nolva or maybe go with the clomid?

Nolva

[Tlee8769]

Sorry about all the questions but if it was you that ran 500 of test e for 12w what would your pct look like?

[kelevra]

Weeks 13 &14 HCG 2500iu 2x weekly
Weeks 14-15 Nolva 40mg ed
weeks16-17 Nolva 20mg ed
Clomid (only since i have it) weeks 14-17 @ 50mg ed

A lot of things and opinions out there. Nolva and HCG for sure.

[Tlee8769]

I think im going to take HCG throughout the cycle. I havent found any info on what aromasin or nolvadex amount to use throughout the cycle do you know ? Its more or less a preventative?

[5x10]

I think im going to take HCG throughout the cycle. I havent found any info on what aromasin or nolvadex amount to use throughout the cycle do you know ? Its more or less a preventative?

12.5 ed of aromasin , no need for nolva on cycle
aromasin will not allow the test to aromatize into estro

[Tlee8769]

Will that effect my gains at all?

[5x10]

Will that effect my gains at all?

probably not, your adding more test into the mix with hcg
you might not bloat as much, but you will have more free floating test in your blood

[Tlee8769]

Yeah thats fine i dont want the water retention anyways ill run it all the way through i dont need it as a pct now correct? Just the nolva clomid

[kelevra]

Will that effect my gains at all?

i stay off serms or ai's unless gyno symp become an issue

[kelevra]

Yeah thats fine i dont want the water retention anyways ill run it all the way through i dont need it as a pct now correct? Just the nolva clomid

my preference would be to keep the aromisin and not the clomid. and 500mg of Test will prob not cause much water retention.

[BritishNutrition]

Weeks 13 &14 HCG 2500iu 2x weekly
Weeks 14-15 Nolva 40mg ed
weeks16-17 Nolva 20mg ed
Clomid (only since i have it) weeks 14-17 @ 50mg ed

A lot of things and opinions out there. Nolva and HCG for sure.

i agree with this fully mate and its the route i would take

[Tlee8769]

Yeah im starting to get a little puffy nips so would aromasin ed 12.5mg or 12.5eod be better?

[Tlee8769]

Yeah im starting to get a little puffy nips so would aromasin ed 12.5mg or 12.5eod be better?

No lumps underneath or anything and no tenderness either.

[Tlee8769]

No lumps underneath or anything and no tenderness either.

So since im taking a AI now i dont need one at the end of the cycle correct? So you think just nolvadex as a pct ?

[Jawcep]

If gyno is of concern I'd point you to a thread I just posted in the AAS forum: Prevention of Gyno with Tamoxifen vs Anastrozole Scientific Review Article.