first proposed cycle, please take time to comment guys

**little p** · 04-28-2011, 03:56 PM

Hey guys, thanks for taking the time to check out my proposed first cycle. My stats are as follows...
Age - 28
Weight - 209
Height 6'2"
Training experience - 8 years
BF - prob 13%
Cycles - no expereince but have used clen tabs before
My planned cycle....

Test E - @ 500mg/week, split 250mg mon and thurs ( i was thinkin about running deca or d-bol for first 4 weeks) would ye suggest this???
PCT - begin 14 days after final injection using both clomid and volva

is it also ok to do abit a cardio while running test E

**redz** · 04-28-2011, 03:59 PM

It is absolutely fine to do cardio while on Test E in fact you definitely should do atleast some. Stick with the Test alone for your first run and definitely run Nolva and Clomid for pct.

**jtuner77** · 04-28-2011, 03:59 PM

By what I have read in books as well as on the forums best just stick with Test A@ 500mg for 8-10 weeks, HCG and AI. Most wouldnt recommend stacking this cycle till later cycles down the road. I am doing the same as you but 4 weeks of Winny at the end of an 8 week cycle.

**MuttonChop** · 04-28-2011, 04:05 PM

Definitely no to running deca or d-bol (especially the former). If you are going for 8-12 weeks, your cycle seems alright. Not the best, but alright.

Some possible improvements:

1) Get an AI and take it during the cycle. Will prevent gyno/bloating/estro sides
2) Adding HCG during your cycle will prevent testicular shrinkage. Please read sticky on Pregnyl if interested.

Take special heed with point #2. Basically, PCT consists of two things: Getting the signal going (chemical) and actually producing normal hormones (physical). The chemical is fixed right away by the Clomid/Nolva, but the physical part takes some time and is the weakest link. Hence, I highly recommend HCG.

**little p** · 04-28-2011, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by jtuner77

By what I have read in books as well as on the forums best just stick with Test A@ 500mg for 8-10 weeks, HCG and AI most wouldnt recommend stacking this cycle till later cycles down the road. I am doing the same as you but 4 weeks of Winny at the end of an 8 week cycle.

forgot to put in im planning on running test for 12 weeks.. alot i have read say dont stop at week 8 or 10 to keep going till 12..??

**little p** · 04-28-2011, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by MuttonChop

Definitely no to running deca or d-bol (especially the former). If you are going for 8-12 weeks, your cycle seems alright. Not the best, but alright.

Some possible improvements:

1) Get an AI and take it during the cycle. Will prevent gyno/bloating/estro sides
2) Adding HCG during your cycle will prevent testicular shrinkage. Please read sticky on Pregnyl if interested.

Take special heed with point #2. Basically, PCT consists of two things: Getting the signal going (chemical) and actually producing normal hormones (physical). The chemical is fixed right away by the Clomid/Nolva, but the physical part takes some time and is the weakest link. Hence, I highly recommend HCG.

sorry gonna sound ignorant here but what is AI? im gonna take Novla everyday i think and Clomid after a few weeks? have you any recommnedations on pct?

**MuttonChop** · 04-28-2011, 05:25 PM

Nolva is a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM). An AI removes estrogen while a SERM just blocks the estrogen from working. Do more research and you will find out that an AI is the way to go.

12 weeks is fine, but don't expect many gains during the last few weeks. Experienced users know this but still go for 8+ week cycles, but I don't get why. But still, there must be a reason. Steroid .com recommends 12 weeks @ 400mg/week so you might want to consider that.