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    brian101883 is offline Junior Member
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    Need imput about pct

    Im just about to be done with my second 4 week Pro cycle. This second one is halo mass. Im working with a guy that sets up diets and supps for a very established company and just wanting to see what other peoples thoughts are. Along with the halo mass Im taking 4 liver fix pills a days. 2, 2 times a day along with estrogen x while in on my cycle. Is that sufficent enough? Lasts month cycle I took estrogen x along with organ shield while on cycle. It went fine no sides of any kind. So would that be efficient in your opinions?

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    Also wanting to know how long I should wait to do my first run or TEST E? Plan on using nolva for pct with that for sure.

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    Also I bought this pro from my local supp shop so its gotta be really mild right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian101883 View Post
    Also I bought this pro from my local supp shop so its gotta be really mild right?
    This is ignorant thinking, what Pro Hormone is it ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    1. PH/Designer Steroid PCT

    wk 1-4 Tamox 20mg/ED

    OR

    wk 1-4 Clomid 25mg/ED (50mg/ED week 1)

    See above.

    What is your:

    Age
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    Is halo mass, and im 27 5"11 184. about 10 % BF. so you think I do need nolvadex then.

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    So if im 2 weeks in on this cycle could I just use order the nolvadex then start it when I get it. I thought I would need clomid or nolvadex but he said I shouldnt. Going against my better judgement I took his advice since hes trained many many successful clients. So this is my second cycle in a row so I should order the nolvadex now then huh?

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    So I just ran out of estroge x. So instead of buying that I need to be buying nolvadex then huh. I knew I just have trusted my judgement and not his. I thought that sounded kinda weird but with his track record I trusted it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian101883 View Post
    So I just ran out of estroge x. So instead of buying that I need to be buying nolvadex then huh. I knew I just have trusted my judgement and not his. I thought that sounded kinda weird but with his track record I trusted it.
    Shouldve yes. Probably need bloodwork now since your going to be starting your PCT late and may have damaged yourself.

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    but im not done with the halo mass yet, I still have 2 weeks left of it. Ive also read so many place that you dont absolutly need a pct with a prohormone but its just a better idea. What kind of blood work are you talking, and what kind of damange are you talkin? Ive read alot of different things on pro and always the main things about them ive read is liver support and estrogen support. So how could there be alot of damange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian101883 View Post
    but im not done with the halo mass yet, I still have 2 weeks left of it. Ive also read so many place that you dont absolutly need a pct with a prohormone but its just a better idea. What kind of blood work are you talking, and what kind of damange are you talkin? Ive read alot of different things on pro and always the main things about them ive read is liver support and estrogen support. So how could there be alot of damange.

    Then don't do a PCT, it's your body. Prohormones are a waste of money anyways in my opinion.

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    I plan on doing a pct. But since I'm not done with this cycle I start ny pct right after right? That's why I don't plan on doing any more pros. How long should I wait to do TEST E? I actually ordered some nolva. Thanks for all the input man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian101883 View Post
    I plan on doing a pct. But since I'm not done with this cycle I start ny pct right after right? That's why I don't plan on doing any more pros. How long should I wait to do TEST E? I actually ordered some nolva. Thanks for all the input man.
    Test E would be far better for your money spent. Yes start PCT 24 - 36 hours after your cycle ends. Post a picture to confirm your 10% Bodyfat. I would get bloodwork done. Read the Education thread "Everything you need to know about bloodwork" to give you an idea of what steroid -related tests you should get done. Also read the "Test beginner cycle"

    How many years have you seriously been training for ?

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    About 2 maybe 3 years. So u still think I should get blood work done huh. I mean what do u tell a dr when your getting ready to do that, lol.

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    So how long should I wait after PCT to do test cycle? I was thinking like 6 weeks. What do think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian101883 View Post
    So how long should I wait after PCT to do test cycle? I was thinking like 6 weeks. What do think?
    Before you cycle:

    (1) Post your diet in the diet section to be improved upon
    (2) Post a picture in the member's section to confirm your bodyfat%
    (3) Once diet has been improved, show you can actually stick to it and gain naturally for 3-4 months
    (4) In the mean time you should be reading the informational threads because you seem very uneducated about ProHormones and AAS..
    (5) Get bloodwork done 5 weeks from finishing PCT.

    In other words, I don;'t think you should be cycling any time this year and you need to go through that checklist.

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