tamoxifen alternatives

[bert003]

I have read that tamoxifen can decrease sperm count and this thing scared me.

Is the above statement true?

Are there other (maybe natural) alternatives to tamoxifen for PCT?

[JimmySidewalk]

clomid for PCT or hcg .

[bert003]

Yes I know about that, just imagined maybe something else existed.

Does anyone know anything about the fact that tamoxifen can decrease sperm count pls?

[gixxerboy1]

steriods themselves can lower sperm count.
You have to remember when you read the side effects for nolva those effects are for when it is being used for what it is designed for.
Also the Anavar you are taking can lower sperm count.
I would just run nolva and do a correct pct.

[bert003]

ok. so I ll do it for 3 weeks at 20mg ed?

[baseline_9]

Effects of tamoxifen on the levels of luteinizing hormone (LH), follicle stimulating hormone (FSH), prolactin (PRL), 17 beta-oestradiol (E2), total and free testosterone (T) and total and free dihydrotestosterone (DHT) in blood of patients with benign prostatic hyperplasia.

Stahl F, Schnorr D, Rohde W, Poppe I, Geier T, Dörner G.

Abstract
Treatment of 9 patients with benign prostatic hyperplasia with 20 mg tamoxifen daily for 6 weeks resulted in a significant increase of LH (211%), FSH (215%), E2 (231%), total T (157%), free T (148%) and total DHT (148%) levels in blood. The increase of plasma free DHT (152%) levels was not significant and PRL concentrations in serum were unchanged during treatment. Comparison of the increases between total T and free T, total T and total DHT as well as free T and free DHT failed to reveal any significant differences. These results imply (1) a marked anti-oestrogenic effect of tamoxifen at the level of hypothalamo-hypophysial axis (2) no effect at the hepatic oestrogen receptor sites indicated by unchanged SHBG-bound T and DHT in plasma and (3) no significant inhibitory effect of tamoxifen on 5 alpha-reductase activity concluded from the T/DHT ratio in peripheral circulation. In view of these findings tamoxifen appears to be unsuitable for therapy of benign prostatic hyperplasia.



FSH - Found on Wiki....

Effects in males
FSH stimulates primary spermatocytes to undergo the first division of meiosis, to form secondary spermatocytes.
FSH enhances the production of androgen-binding protein by the Sertoli cells of the testes by binding to FSH receptors on their basolateral membranes,[4] and is critical for the initiation of spermatogenesis.

[bert003]

thanks a lot baseline_9, that's exactly what I wanted to know. thanks again

So i will run nolva at 20mg for 3 weeks once the cycle is over...