How much weight can i expect to lose once my cycle is over ( 2 weeks left)

[Flier]

Thanks guys had to catch up , this blew up a little bit I am super glad you all posted with your opinions as it relates keeping gains. Muscle is Muscle I don't see how you can lose it provided you follow your diet and and keep working out. Im going to run my PCT and just keep maintaining , next week is my last shot the 14 days preceding my PCT when should I start lowering my intensity? Ill be running about a week an a half of var after my last shot of test too right before my PCT.

Keep up the intensity, keep lifting heavy with form, but limit your time in the gym to 45-60 min.
It´s all about staying Anabolic .

[jimmyinkedup]

You do not need to beat around to bush to make a point. No need to be so touchy either.

I made myself very clear in my post above while trying to make a point for CuriousGuy, explaining my perspective on some compounds with highly anabolic in nature and why I think they provide users with more retainable muscle mass in the long run as opposed to some others compounds that are by far more androgenic than anabolic in their compositions. You have absolutely no right to give me shit for not having agreed with the points I made. Grow up!

You are distorting the subject in this thread by turning it into a personal matter, try not to.

Thanks.

Do we have some personal history im unaware of?
Its not the fact that your wrong ...its the fact that your a condescending prick. You have been that way in several threads lately and made sevral comments with that tone. Im not quitye sure who you think you are - but please make an effort to stop - it makes you look and sound like an idiot - especially to those that do know wtf they are talking about.
That clear enough for you? Not distorted in any way?
Thanks.

[jimmyinkedup]

So whats your take on the feedback I am looking for , I would love to hear it please chime in....... It means allot to me thanks

Dont be fooled into believeing the anabolic /androgenic ratio of a steroid will determine gains retention. Its nonsense - although people im sure have read this somwhere and believe it. The very mechanisms that increase the anabolic effect of a steroid will return to "normal" once the steroid use ceases. Same thing when it comes to its androgenic effects (utilizing effective pct of course).
The best thing you can do is be sure to increase cals to support additional muscle mass and adjust training as well.

[Turkish Juicer]

Do we have some personal history im unaware of?
Its not the fact that your wrong ...its the fact that your a condescending prick. You have been that way in several threads lately and made sevral comments with that tone. Im not quitye sure who you think you are - but please make an effort to stop - it makes you look and sound like an idiot - especially to those that do know wtf they are talking about.
That clear enough for you? Not distorted in any way?
Thanks.

As a matter of fact, we did not have a personal history before you called me a ''condescending prick,'' but after that, you can bet on it.

I did not know you had the ability to judge someone whom you have never met in person, but apparently you can leap to a conclusion about his style without hearing his voice or observing his mimics, now I wish were born with such outrageous qualities.

I can tell by looking at your style that you are one of those people who thinks he can represent for the rest, telling me that I sound and look like an idiot to the members of this forum, but you should know that you are the first and only person who ever approached me with such an aggravating style since the first day of my membership. Moreover, I have been receiving thank you pm's from some of the members I tried to be helpful with on the steroid and nutrition forums ''lately'', so I have absolutely no concern for your nonsense. So why don't you take a deep breath and reconsider this situation. Try not to be so subjective this time.

Here is a direct quotation from steroid.com ''its (Primobolan Depot's) primary functions is to help your body retain nitrogen at a greatly enhanced rate. The greater your nitrogen retention is, the more muscle you will build.'' And what did I say in my original post about gear use and muscle retention? I agreed upon everything about the diet yet added my perspective that ''the longer one stays on high anabolic ratio compound the possibility of retainable muscle increases in the long term.'' You are more than welcomed to think I am wrong about this, at least I will not call you a ''condescending prick'' for disagreeing with me and/or thinking that I am wrong.

If you thik I will be subjected to your anger outbursts and/or your devoted despisement towards me in this forum, you are terribly mistaken. You really need to chill out...

[jimmyinkedup]

As a matter of fact, we did not have a personal history before you called me a ''condescending prick,'' but after that, you can bet on it. see how that works out for yiu

I did not know you had the ability to judge someone whom you have never met in person, but apparently you can leap to a conclusion about his style without hearing his voice or observing his mimics, now I wish were born with such outrageous qualities. Well u make it pretty easy typing things in threads like "before the idiots chime in" and responding to a vet with "any vet should know this"

I can tell by looking at your style hmm interesting- just one sentence ago that was an "outrageous quality" - yet now you express the arrogance to possess it. Go figure. that you are one of those people who thinks he can represent for the rest, telling me that I sound and look like an idiot to the members of this forum, but you should know that you are the first and only person who ever approached me with such an aggravating style since the first day of my membership. Moreover, I have been receiving thank you pm's from some of the members I tried to be helpful with on the steroid and nutrition forums ''lately'', so I have absolutely no concern for your nonsense. So why don't you take a deep breath and reconsider this situation. Try not to be so subjective this time.

Here is a direct quotation from steroid.com ''its (Primobolan Depot's) primary functions is to help your body retain nitrogen at a greatly enhanced rate. The greater your nitrogen retention is, the more muscle you will build.'' And what did I say in my original post about gear use and muscle retention? I agreed upon everything about the diet yet added my perspective that ''the longer one stays on high anabolic ratio compound the possibility of retainable muscle increases in the long term.'' You are more than welcomed to think I am wrong about this, at least I will not call you a ''condescending prick'' for disagreeing with me and/or thinking that I am wrong. it has nothing to do with right or wrong - its the arrogant condescending remarks like the ones I mentioned above that I take issue with

If you thik I will be subjected to your anger outbursts and/or your devoted despisement towards me in this forum, you are terribly mistaken. You really need to chill out...

Do not presume to tell me what I need to do.
You need to check your ego and arrogance a bit so as not to be offensive and we can ALL resume learning from one another. I am not the only one that has taken notice of this btw.

Now back to the topic at hand:
While steroids that are more anabolic in nature exert their effects like increased nitrogen retention and increased protein systhesis - these elevated effects do not last post administration - thus it is inevitable your body will not be able to maintain or "retain" those gains any more so than androgen induced gains. The end result will ultimately be the same. Thats my opinion and experience. You are surely entitled so yours. Id simply appreciate it if you leave the condescention behind.
Thank You.

[CuriousGuy]

good work out today

[SACKMYCOOKiow]

goto say great read

[CuriousGuy]

i thinks so too , lotta great information one last question besides all the shit i have went out and bought probably more then another cycle . Can I take TBomb or any other natural testosterone booster from GNC will that help in recovery and boosting test along with everything else ?

[gixxerboy1]

i thinks so too , lotta great information one last question besides all the shit i have went out and bought probably more then another cycle . Can I take TBomb or any other natural testosterone booster from GNC will that help in recovery and boosting test along with everything else ?

i wouldnt take anything else. I've seen those test booster cause more issues and also boost estrogen.

[CuriousGuy]

Most of them have Estrogen blockers here is the info:

1. Increases Your Natural Production of Testosterone *
Clinical doses of surmised Testosterone-boosting compounds force your pituitary into overdrive!* T-BOMB II supports your pituitary to produce luteinizing hormone and potentially triggers the release of Testosterone, giving you explosive strength and head-turning gains in rock-hard muscle mass!*

2. Cripples SHBG and Increases "Free Testosterone"*
Elevated Testosterone is only beneficial if it is circulating in the blood as "Free Testosterone".* Sex- Hormone-Binding Globulin (SHBG) is a protein that binds to Testosterone, rendering it useless. T-Bomb II supports lowered SHBG!* T-Bomb II frees up even more Testosterone to promote greater gains in mass and strength.*

3. Stops Testosterone to Estrogen Conversion*
Unfortunately, not all Testosterone remains as Testosterone once it's produced. The "aromatase" enzyme converts some of your Testosterone into estrogen, which is responsible for the accumulation of body fat and water retention.* Anti-Aromatase inhibitors found in T-Bomb II may reduct the conversion of Testosterone to estrogen.*

4. Blocks Estrogen Receptors*
Stage 2 of T-BOMB It's "estrogen assault" uses estrogen-blocking compounds to clog the receptors, assuring that estrogen does not attach to the receptor and exert any of its estrogenic effects.* With T-Bomb II's two-stage assault, Testosterone, and only Testosterone, dominates your hormonal composition.*

5. Lowers the Conversion of Testosterone to DHT*
Testosterone can also convert into a hormone known as DHT, which is responsible for negative side effects such as baldness and acne. T-Bomb II provides your body with the critical nutrients to minimize and block this conversion.* Additionally, minimizing DHT, which normally competes with Testosterone for the androgen receptor, leaves even more receptors open for Testosterone to latch onto.

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For years, bodybuilders have been trying to figure out how to maximize receptor cell activity. They know that regardless of how much Testosterone they have pumping through their bodies, they aren't going to benefit if their receptors aren't responding. If their muscle cells aren't ready to accept all of this extra Testosterone, their Testosterone-maximizing efforts are wasted!


Here's how it works: When testosterone arrives and docks at the muscle cell receptor site, complex intracellular compounds called "2nd Messengers" communicate this arrival to the cell nucleus and trigger an anabolic (muscle building) reaction. The more efficient your 2nd Messengers are working, the louder the signal they send. This is referred to as signal transduction, and the amplified signal increases Testosterone's anabolic effects to stimulate muscle growth. Simply stated, if your 2nd Messengers are operating optimally, the muscle building effects of Testosterone are increased ten-fold!

T-Bomb II brings this amazing, new receptor site technology to you with its proprietary 2nd Messenger Complex. Exclusive to T-Bomb II, this complex has upped the ante on Testosterone's role in bodybuilding... Forever!

T-Bomb II's Optimone-5 Complex will make sure your hormonal landscape is primed for growth.* Let's go through our checklist:

Your pituitary is in overdrive, supporting Testosterone levels .*
You're crippling SHBG, allowing even more Free Testosterone to be available to latch onto the muscle receptors.*
You're shutting down estrogen with a two-stage assault by promoting reduced conversion of estrogen and by blocking the estrogen receptor so estrogen may not be utilized.*
Then the 2nd Messenger Complex sends an amplified signal that Testosterone has arrived and unleashes its anabolic effects.*

[gixxerboy1]

thats their marketing material. Notice everything say potentially will , or may do this.
Supplements arent regulated or proven.

[CuriousGuy]

What I have now is :


Novladex
Clomid
Formeron (Transdermal )
Tribulus
ZMA
Vitamin C
Whey Protein Always
NOXplode
was going to toss in T Bomb too but if you say I dont need it then I wont get it. I just want my test to get back to normal or close ASAP.

[CuriousGuy]

thats their marketing material. Notice everything say potentially will , or may do this.
Supplements arent regulated or proven.

Gotcha so Ill not get it , can you recomend anything at the vitamin shop or GNC thats good for natural test production ?

[gixxerboy1]

you should be fine with what you already have. More isnt always better. And what you have now is proven to work

[CuriousGuy]

you should be fine with what you already have. More isnt always better. And what you have now is proven to work

Thanks Bruddah I appreciate it, good looking out!

[CuriousGuy]

you should be fine with what you already have. More isnt always better. And what you have now is proven to work

After PCT anything in-between cycles that's good to take Animal Stack or anything else ? My buddy takes this stuff Tri-Methyl and he's ripped, just wondering I dont want to waste any money I dont need to but want to stay strong .

[CuriousGuy]

you should be fine with what you already have. More isnt always better. And what you have now is proven to work

After PCT anything in-between cycles that's good to take Animal Stack or anything else ? My buddy takes this stuff Tri-Methyl and he's ripped, just wondering I dont want to waste any money I dont need to but want to stay strong .

[CuriousGuy]

double post accident

[CuriousGuy]

I just pumped my last injection of test , very nervous and stressed im not going to be on it anymore. I feel so great Im afraid Im going to get depressed , lazy , lose my shape , sex drive and I hope its all in my mind and I power through my PCT and keep the intensity of my workouts and everything will be ok but I am nervous as hell. Make me feel better guys show me the light at the end of the tunnel !!!

[minitourwvu]

I just pumped my last injection of test , very nervous and stressed im not going to be on it anymore. I feel so great Im afraid Im going to get depressed , lazy , lose my shape , sex drive and I hope its all in my mind and I power through my PCT and keep the intensity of my workouts and everything will be ok but I am nervous as hell. Make me feel better guys show me the light at the end of the tunnel !!!

Im in the same boat man just did my last pin, pct some people make it sound scary but you will be ok, focus on motivation and goals and eat really good. I got clen to run for my pct as ive read it helps some people keep some of their lbm while coming off aas im not sure how true this is but i also wanted to run it to lose 1 or 2% of bf so either way its a win win, i also have tribulis, mens now virility, maca, biotin, folic acid, vitaminb6 to help with pct again not sure how effective it will be so just stay possitive, what is your pct look like mine is 100/50/50/50 clom and 40/40/20/20 nolva

[CuriousGuy]

Im in the same boat man just did my last pin, pct some people make it sound scary but you will be ok, focus on motivation and goals and eat really good. I got clen to run for my pct as ive read it helps some people keep some of their lbm while coming off aas im not sure how true this is but i also wanted to run it to lose 1 or 2% of bf so either way its a win win, i also have tribulis, mens now virility, maca, biotin, folic acid, vitaminb6 to help with pct again not sure how effective it will be so just stay possitive, what is your pct look like mine is 100/50/50/50 clom and 40/40/20/20 nolva

My PCT is the same as yours question is that 7 days a week for 30 days because you put 40/40/20/20 that's 4 days clarity on that would be great. They make PCT sound horrible lol, I would stay on my gear but or at least the Test but I want to have another baby so I need to come off.

Was thinking about Clen too but wasn't sure if it was necessary that's why I have been asking around its pretty easy to get so I can start it anytime.

I am pretty positive I mean i look and feel amazing and dont plan on stopping what I am doing its all in my mind any depression or anxiety I may have ill just pop a xanex and be ok

[minitourwvu]

My PCT is the same as yours question is that 7 days a week for 30 days because you put 40/40/20/20 that's 4 days clarity on that would be great. They make PCT sound horrible lol, I would stay on my gear but or at least the Test but I want to have another baby so I need to come off.

Was thinking about Clen too but wasn't sure if it was necessary that's why I have been asking around its pretty easy to get so I can start it anytime.

I am pretty positive I mean i look and feel amazing and dont plan on stopping what I am doing its all in my mind any depression or anxiety I may have ill just pop a xanex and be ok

7 days a week 4 weeks

[CuriousGuy]

Thanks