Standard PCT - Importance of HCG

[MR-FQ320]

I am seeing a lot of newbs posting stuff like this:

is my cycle OK?

test 500 1-12
dbol 50 ED 1-4
etc etc
standard pct

OR

test 500 pw 1-12
dbol1-4
nolva 14-18 40/40/20/20
clomid 100/100/50/50

GUYS WE ALL GOTTA START USING HCG AFTER OR DURING CYCLE

Its cheap and effective ! Ill give you the bro science bit and leave the technical stuff to the other threads which have already been written.

It kick starts your balls and makes them big again - big balls = more natty test production - simple.
I cannot state enough how effective this is and after a few cycles without, I can say how much better the recovery is and therefore how much more of my gains I/We can keep

There are two different theories about HCG protocol
1: run throughout cycle
2: at end of cycle

I prefer the end of the cycle like this this; 1 bottle = 5000iu, mix some bac water in with it, when your AAS should have left your body inject 1/3 of this SubQ into belly fat with a slin pin do this Every 3rd day(E3D), 2/3 days after the last HCG injection start the clomid and nolva protocol

[Bio-Active]

Agree hcg should be the staple of all cycles!!

[clarky.]

A just started mine today first time using hcg so will see if there's a difference.

[Tennis_tom]

any update on your results clarky?

[bbiiggllaadd]

how do u take hgc ive got some for when i come off cycle and has it got to be kept in fridge once mixed? how much should i take

[MR-FQ320]

how do u take hgc ive got some for when i come off cycle and has it got to be kept in fridge once mixed? how much should i take

If its a 5000iu bottle inject 1ml of bac water into it and shake, now use a different slin pin to extract 1/3ml and inject it sub Q into belly fat. First injection is when the half life of you longest AAS Esther has passed, then inject every third day go the last two injections

[Lemonada8]

GUYS WE ALL GOTTA START USING HCG DURING CYCLE agree with this edited statement

I prefer the end of the cycle like this this; 1 bottle = 5000iu, mix some bac water in with it, when your AAS should have left your body inject 1/3 of this SubQ into belly fat with a slin pin do this Every 3rd day(E3D), 2/3 days after the last HCG injection start the clomid and nolva protocol

HCG should be ran throughout the entire cycle, not a blast at the end between cycle and pct. there are at least 2 HCG specific threads in the forums that explain why. i know, i wrote one of them. A single vial of 5000iu HCG will last you easily 10 weeks, since most cycles last about that long its just perfect. You should time to be out of HCG when you are on your first day of taking pct meds.

[kelkel]

Don't shake HCG guys. It's a relatively fragile peptide. Just rotate it gently and it will mix. There's an HRT sticky thread on mixing it if you have issues...

[bbiiggllaadd]

its 1500iu when should i take um and how been told into belly fat and told into musscle by some one else?

[bbiiggllaadd]

[Bio-Active]

its 1500iu when should i take um and how been told into belly fat and told into musscle by some one else?

200-250 iu 2 x EW will maintain testicular function during administration of exogenous testosterone

[DannC]

Personally i know you can take it both ways, also IM also SubQ...but mostly prefer SubQ, don`t really know why...maybe it`s just easier to pinch your belly then to stick it in the muscle, then aspirate ...
Regarding the part of the "in belly fat"...made me think if there`s some thruth about those weight loss diet stuff with Pregnyl... or maybe works just in chicks

[Bio-Active]

Subq is almost painless and easier

[tebby]

Is your recommendation on HCG all the way through relative to dosage?....or just run it all the way through no matter what

[Bio-Active]

Is your recommendation on HCG all the way through relative to dosage?....or just run it all the way through no matter what

Run it all the way through at 200-250 iu 2 X EW right up to 3 days before starting pct.

[tebby]

I will do so....
I have been reading about this topic for mos on this board and just cannot get an idea of what should be done here.
It makes sense (at least to me)

[tigerspawn]

Bump

[spiderman87]

Still kinda lost. I'm on week 3 of my third cycle, never ran HCG before but just got a bottle 5,000 IU. I have bac water for it.
How much water should I mix with it?
How much/often do I need to take? I'm trying to follow along here but one guys says mix one ML water then take three times at 1/3 ML. Then another says its enough for a 10 week cycle?
Explain it as plain and simple as possible please haha

[MR-FQ320]

Still kinda lost. I'm on week 3 of my third cycle, never ran HCG before but just got a bottle 5,000 IU. I have bac water for it.
How much water should I mix with it?
How much/often do I need to take? I'm trying to follow along here but one guys says mix one ML water then take three times at 1/3 ML. Then another says its enough for a 10 week cycle?
Explain it as plain and simple as possible please haha

You have mentioned the two different ways of administering HCG, epither throughout the length of your AAS cycle or at the end. The latter was what we used to do but now the school o thought has moved on to administering throughout the cycle to prevent a total shutdown.

If you go with twice a week at 250iu this equates to 5000iu right ?

If its a small bottle add 1 ml , if it looks like a 2 ml add 2ml. The more water the better for smaller more accurate dosages.

[qbizm]

So if I have 5000iu and mix it in 10ml of bac water, that should give me 10 shots at 500iu per ml right? And if I wanted to administer twice a week, that would be .5ml per shot... Is this right?

[MR-FQ320]

So if I have 5000iu and mix it in 10ml of bac water, that should give me 10 shots at 500iu per ml right? And if I wanted to administer twice a week, that would be .5ml per shot... Is this right?

Correct. Is the bottle big enough to get that much bac water in ?

[qbizm]

Correct. Is the bottle big enough to get that much bac water in ?

Yeah, I've got some sterile 20ml ones so I reckons that's g2g. Thanks for the confirmation!

[Lemonada8]

for HCG administration, just use an Insulin needle. Its much easier, and since HCG is best via Sub-Q.. makes it a charm to use. for administration is basic math and conversions.

for a 5000iu vial of HCG, make sure that you have a sealed sterile vial that is 5ml size. Mix the 5000iu with 5 ml bact water, swirl it * dont shake, you can possibly damage the hormone* untill its fully dissolved. The concentration is now 1000iu/1 ml. Then use the insulin needle.
To draw 250ius, using a insulin needle ( U100 size = 100 units per ml) draw the HCG liquid to the 25 mark which would be 250ius of HCG.
Using a U100 insulin needle, make sure you get the ones that are marked by 1 unit incriments.

you can use any insulin needle size, it just takes some math and conversions to make sure you get the amounts correct)

Prolly the easiest using the concentration of 1000iu / 1 ml.. is by using a 3/10 ml insulin needle ( holds 30 units) and drawing it up to the 25 line which would make it 25 units.


this makes it much easier than using a full 20 ml vial, and a large needle. Insulin needles are virtually painless compared to the needles used for AAS.