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    tb3
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    Should I even bother with a SERM/AI?

    I have 2 days left on my first cycle. Decided to go as mild as possible just to test the waters and see how I respond before I decide to try anything stronger. I did a solo H-Drol oral PH cycle, no test base or anything. I dosed the H-Drol at 75mg ed for 4 weeks.

    Gained about 7-8 lbs of lean mass in 28 days. Bench went up 15-20 lbs. Arms look noticeably fuller, but nothing crazy as expected from such a mild compound, and such a short cycle.



    Now for PCT, I'm really undecided on what to do here. I have plenty of all the OTC stuff - Fenugreek, Tribulus, DAA, Liver/Prostate support, ZMA.

    I also have Nolva, and ATD on hand. I know most people say you always need a SERM, but I'm not feeling lethargic or really shutdown at all. My balls look fine, and my junk is working fine. My libido is down a little, but it's definitely still there.

    So, should I save the Nolva/ATD for a future cycle? Why or why not?

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    Run the nolvadex any oral cycle is hard on your hpta

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027
    Run the nolvadex any oral cycle is hard on your hpta
    Yup^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    Run the nolvadex any oral cycle is hard on your hpta

    Even though there are hardly any signs of shutdown? I heard nolva can murder libido for long periods of time. That's what's putting me off from wanting to use it if I don't have to.

    You think something like 15/10/10/5 would be good?

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    Run nolvadex at 20/20/10/10 that's a very soft pct and will not hurt labido or if you don't gave enough you could just go 20/20/10

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