Test Prop Cycle-Hcg prior to Pct?

**Snakeman4life** · 06-16-2014, 11:27 AM

Hey guys,

I haven't posted here in a long time but basically I'm on my third cycle...took 8 years off and decided to get back in shape and run some Test prop while I leaned out.

Current Stats: 6 1"
Weight: 205(down from 230)
Body Fat % somewhere between 12-15 % I would think

So I'm have been running 125 mg of Test Prop EOD and almost onto my 12th week. I didn't plan to run this long but I started early before I got my diet/workout plan from my trainer and well I didn't think I needed HCG on such a short cycle(planned on only 8 weeks) and therefore I planned to only use Nolvadex and Clomid for PCT. Well things have changed and I'm going for a full 16 weeks. I have also been taking 0.25 mg of Arimidex EOD and 10 mg Nolvadex daily(as I'm paranoid about gyno-had the surgery four years ago). Things have been great on this cycle...dropped a ton of fat due to a very strict diet and lots of morning cardio and was able to maintain most of my mass plus added some gains. I have had no sides but I'm definitely shut down and I need start thinking of an exit strategy as I don't want to rebound. I have now picked up some HCG(haven't reconstituted it yet) and I have 10,000 iu total, along with Nolvadex, Clomid, A-dex.

Through tons of research I have found that my best bet would have been to run the HCG @ 250 iu x 2 per week to keep the boys going but since I'm past that now I'm asking what's my best course at this point. Should I start running this option now leading up to my last shot than start SERMS 3-4 days after or would it have no effect? Do I do a blast after my ester clears for ten days and in that case at what dose and for how long? I don't want to desensitize myself or run the risk of elevating my E2 to the point where I get gyno. I have heard that AI's have no effect on HCG related E2 surges so what is my best bet to combat this? I'm guessing smaller HCG doses for a longer time period maybe? Thing is I'm thinking I need to shock them so again just looking for the best advice giving my situation.

Thanks

**Bio-Active** · 06-16-2014, 12:59 PM

Running a hcg blast such as the power pct protocol is going to cause spikes in estrogen no doubt. If you are concerned about the estrogen I would make sure to run the hcg for at least 4-6 weeks before starting your pct. you could drop your test dose to 100-150 mg ew while running hcg alongside before pct

**Snakeman4life** · 06-16-2014, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by jim230027

Running a hcg blast such as the power pct protocol is going to cause spikes in estrogen no doubt. If you are concerned about the estrogen I would make sure to run the hcg for at least 4-6 weeks before starting your pct. you could drop your test dose to 100-150 mg ew while running hcg alongside before pct

Sounds good.. at what dose would I run it for that time period? The 250iu x 2 a week? I only have access to what I have(10,000 iu) as its a script and my source cant get it refilled for some time. I think its every 60 days or so.

When I go to start Pct is Nolva 40/40/20/20 and Clomid 100/100/50/50 regimen sufficient? How would I use the A-dex while using the HCG ?

Thanks for your help

**Bio-Active** · 06-16-2014, 03:45 PM

Run the Adex at .25 eod with the hcg at 250 iu 2xew. I would run a 6 week pct Clomid 100/50/50/50 nolvadex . 40/40/20/20/20/20

**Snakeman4life** · 06-16-2014, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by jim230027

Run the Adex at .25 eod with the hcg at 250 iu 2xew. I would run a 6 week pct Clomid 100/50/50/50 nolvadex. 40/40/20/20/20/20

Thanks a lot man

**Snakeman4life** · 06-27-2014, 08:56 PM

Update:

So I have started the Hcg at 250 iu 2x a week. I'm going to be doing my 5th shot tomorrow...I'm just wondering at what point should I see the boys start to swell. They didn't atrophy much(maybe down a 1/3 in size) from the beginning but just wondering if its still to early to detect a change or if I should bump it up to 500 iu 2x week, considering I started late in my cycle?

Thanks