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    Testosterone enanthate?

    Testosterone enanthate inj usp 1000 mg/5 (200 mg/ml). This stuff is given by a local doctor. Will this product build muscle or is it just for some type of medical use? Any help would be apprieciated.
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    Thats watson! Good stuff. Came from american doctor? Then you can't go wrong. If you are a steroid novice, you could run 3 ml/ week for 10 weeks and see some pretty nice gains. Maybe 15 lbs muscle growth give or take, especially if its your first cycle.

    So in answer to your question, YES: MUSCLE GROWTH. (along with some possible sides)... May want to take .5 mg anastrazole every other day starting week 3 until week 12. You could add HCG at week 12 or 13 to kick start test production in your balls once again after your cycle completes....

    My $0.02, but if you have the gear for this, I see muscle growth in your near future...

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    Quote Originally Posted by schrodinger123 View Post
    Thats watson! Good stuff. Came from american doctor? Then you can't go wrong. If you are a steroid novice, you could run 3 ml/ week for 10 weeks and see some pretty nice gains. Maybe 15 lbs muscle growth give or take, especially if its your first cycle.

    So in answer to your question, YES: MUSCLE GROWTH. (along with some possible sides)... May want to take .5 mg anastrazole every other day starting week 3 until week 12. You could add HCG at week 12 or 13 to kick start test production in your balls once again after your cycle completes....

    My $0.02, but if you have the gear for this, I see muscle growth in your near future...
    might be a good idea to get stats before giving cycle advice, as the op could be a 14 year old girl for all we know. we should at least ask
    age?
    height?
    weight?
    body fat%?
    years training?
    etc.

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    Good point. Should you be an average size or larger male 25 + who has made some nice natural gains bu working out with your body's natural test for a couple/few years AND are looking to push beyond your plateaus, then my feedback regarding the Watson is probably a good fit.

    Else, filling us in on those stats can help steer the experienced AAS gurus to the right feedback tailored for you.

    I just got excited because Watson from a HRT doc was my first cycle (it was Cypionate , but same difference...)

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    21 yrs old, 5'10", 165lbs, 10% bf, 6yrs 2years were really training hard. I just cant seem to gain weight. I would really like to hit 185 atleast.

    And yes it's from an American doctor.

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    what is your diet, in detail?
    (include macros)

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    My diet suck's. I usually eat 3 sevings of oatmeal with omega3 peanut butter every morning. At 10 oclock I eat a protein bar, Lunch I have 2 chicken breast with brown rice, 3 oclock I have 5 hard boiled eggs, Before work out I eat another Bar, Then A turkey sandwich before bed.

    I just cant find a bulk diet that is fairly simple. I chase drilling rig's All day so im constently on the run. Any diet tips would be GREAT. I need all the help i can get.
    Thanks

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    Cans of tuna are portable as is cans of chicken. With some effort you can prepare meals and take them with you its just a pain in the ass. Doesnt seem like your eating much by that. I think you should be eating a fair amount more and scratch the protein bars for some real food. Others will have better advice I am sure thats just IMO.

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    Wow, your stats look a lot like mine did prior ot first cycle, except for my age. I am over 30. And I dieted prior to my first cycle using Adkins no carb diet to bring my weight down to 155. I was skin and bones, but could see all my muscles well and what I needed to work on and develop. I knew I would just put it back on, and in the right places this time...

    A lot of folks on here steer younger men away from AAS at a young age because you have high levels on test from your leydig cells in your testes as a product of being a young man. A lot of folks feel that you should make good use of this. They are right. Even so, if you have been to HRT doctor and have the gear, and you have a mindset like mine, there would have been nothing that would have talked any sense into me. Not recommending that you run them. But I'll speak from my experiences in case it could be helpful for you.

    As for diet, your sounds better than mine ever did. When I started eating carbs again, and started my cycle, I wanted to ingest a lot of protien. Lots of tuna, peanut butter, Schwartzenegger likes cashews for snacks, I eat eggs, poultry, fish, and BBQ (Texas style). Carb intake is important too, as this is your energy and I view carb intake as a lever I can throw to gain weight OR lose weight, OR hold constant. People used to think that fat content in food caused people to gain weight, but after studying Dr. Atkins work, I think all the carbs in the form of processed sugars are the real culprits... but this one is up for debate as well, and there certainly better experts on diet than myself. I woild listen to what these guys have to say on this board, as they usually offer good feedback.

    OK, but I got my 155 to 195 in two cycles. I experiemented with 200 mg/week test cyp for about 7-8 weeks and saw NOTHING. Just not enough test. This was really just a waste of time and test for me. Very little changed. I have a buddy who did 250mg/week mexican sus rediject for 10 weeks and gained 20 lbs. But he was not a hard gainer like you and myself. For me, I got my results when I went for 600ml/week for 10 weeks, along with 30-50 dBol per day. I did take anastrazole, .5gm every other day to avoid gyno, and did the HCG trick three weeks after my last shot. This was a really fun cycle, and it felt sooooo good to push through all those old barriers that used to PISS ME OFF!! I think I gained a 20-25 lbs.

    I came off for about 2.5 months and planned my next cycle. This time, I wanted to work in some oxymetholone with my test and dbol. I used sustanon and enanthate , 750ml every 5 days, and ran this cycle for 15 weeks. This was a little bit unorthadox, but wanted to start at 30 mg dbol/day and up the amount every week. So I did something like this, with dosage split morning/night (30 dbol, 40 dbol, 50 dbol, 30 dbol + 50 mg oxy, 40 dbol + 50 oxy, 50 dbol + 50 oxy, 30 dbol + 100 oxy, 40 dbol + 100 oxy, 50 dbol + 100 oxy, and then I cycled it back down, week by week. I took anastrazole during this cycle as well... forget the gyno...). A lot of experts will, correctly, point out that all those orals were hard on my liver. Yes its true, but I got NICE results, and I did'nt feel any tightnes in my liver (My liver gets tight when I stress it, like from too much drinking). By the end of this cycle, my bench press had more than doubled what it was prior to my first shot. My weight was up to 195. A single year had passed, and I was a new man.

    A couple of thought on workout strategy: Being over 30, I like to give my muscles 72 hours to heal prior to next training session. So I break up my body into 3 sets of muscle groups and do a 6 day per week routine.

    I'm not looking to show off how much weight I can move around in the gym. I want a great workout, and I want maximium gains the gear that I am using. So I move the bar slowly, powerfully, and so that it can NEVER gain forward or backward momentum. My muscle does all the work, and I don't let newtonian physics move any of the weight for me. At first it was a little bit embarrassing because I was using less weight than I guy my size should. But its not embarrassing now, one short year later, cause I maximized the impact of the weight on my muscles... instead of maximizing the amount of weight I could jerk around and bounce off my chest to show how strong I was to everyone around that day. Find the amound you can power slowly through a full range of motion 10-15 times. Use this weight on some days. Then other days, use more weight, an amound you can press slowly 8-10 times.

    Don't let your body get into a routine that it expects. SHOCK your muscles. When its leg day, do a different set of leg exercises for quads than you did last week. Do 15 sets, or work up to that if you aren't ready for that quite yet. It can be 3 different exercises, or two. But shock those msuscles using fresh motions that day.

    And finally, consistency of working out is FARRRR more important that taking pills, eating right, and working out every once in a while. In order to grow, you must follow your 6 day pattern RELIGOUSLY. Do not break this, as it will rob you of your results that you should be getting with the hormones you are taking. If you have a fever, work out anyhow. Do lighter weights and burn out! But keep your body healing and growing muscle EVERY SINGLE NIGHT YOU GO TO SLEEP WITH THOSE ELEVATED TEST LEVELS!!!!

    I'm done writing you a book, but your story is similar to mine, so I wanted to see if any of this may be helpful to you...

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    Sorry about writing that book, but I think your 185 is VERY attainable, even for a hard gainer. And I'm a guy who did it as a man in his 30s, starting from stats like yours....

    Thought it was pertinent... :;

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    Thanks for the advice schrodinger, I cant wait till I hit 185. Its just extremly hard to find gear where im from. I have the bottle of test, but as far as the dbol and the oxymetholone I wouldn't have the first clue where to find that stuff.

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    why is a doctor giving a 21 year old test? do u have low levels?

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