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10-18-2005, 01:41 PM #1New Member
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Workout Plan
Could i have some sample workout plans for mass and just different lifting tips in general
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10-18-2005, 03:29 PM #2
reguarding powerlifting????
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10-19-2005, 02:49 PM #3New Member
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Yeah
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10-20-2005, 10:47 PM #4
That isn't a bad idea really.....
Is there someone out there, with experience, who can lay down a easy to follow beginner's routine for powerlifting?
Is there already one listed somewhere on the site? Perhaps it can be stickied?? Just curious....Last edited by CanadianGhost; 10-20-2005 at 10:52 PM.
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10-21-2005, 08:03 AM #5Retired Vet
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http://elitefts.com/documents/9week-...ng-program.htm
Good, basic program based upon WSB principles.
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10-21-2005, 09:15 AM #6
The training program presented here has been used by some of the strongest German powerlifters including IPF Junior World Champions Ralf Gierz and Michael Bruegger. Gierz totaled close to 2200 lbs. at superheavyweight and Bruegger was the first German powerlifter to break the 2200 lb. barrier at a bodyweight of 26O lbs. Bruegger was also the first German to bench over 600 lbs. in an IPF competition (paused and no bench shirt). The basic concepts of this program have been used by almost every Olympic lifter, including many world champions over the last 40 years.
The 3x3 system is an eight week training cycle that consists of two phases. Phase I is a high volume phase, while Phase II is the competition phase. It shares some similarities with the Louie Simmons style of training program. The similarities include no off-season, training percentages in the 58-64 percent range and the main focus of the 3x3 is its high volume phase. Another similarity is very few of the 3x3 training lifts are in the percentage range of 80-95 percent.
The one thing making the 3x3 unique when compared to Simmons and other current powerlifting training is that the only training exercises used are the competition lifts. There is no assistance work! Why is that? The answer is very simple. In order to get strong in the squat you need to train the quadriceps, hamstrings, glutes, hip flexors and the lower back. In other programs there are different ways in which to train all these muscles. You can perform a variety of assistance exercises or you can combine the squat with these same assistance exercises. The other option is to train the squat and only the squat. We already know this exercise works all the muscles mentioned above. The major advantage of this option is the squat works the muscles exactly the way they are needed for the competition.
As I mentioned earlier this type of training approach has been used for decades by the Eastern Bloc and Western European Olympic lifters and it works. During the last 10 years I have had the opportunity to talk to and train with many Olympic lifters. In 1992 1 was stationed at the Olympic Training Center while doing my assignment with the German Army. I observed that their training consists of only the competition lifts, the snatch and clean and jerk. Some of you might say that Olympic lifters do a variety of pulls including pulls from a block, high pulls from the hang position, etc. If you take a closer look at these exercises you will see that they are biomechanically identical to a certain portion of the competition lifts. The only difference is that they are not performed through the full range of motion of the competition lift. This will definitely overload the muscles. This is a technique that is very effective if you do it right. Unfortunately I see many powerlifters doing it wrong. They do hack squats, leg presses and leg extensions - exercises that have no bio-mechanical relationship to the competition lift. Leg pressing a 1000 lbs. does not mean that you can squat that weight. Do you see the difference? These exercises do have their place in a training program, but only to rehabilitate from injuries or to create variety once in a while, but not in a serious training cycle.
The 3x3 system works so well because your muscles will be stimulated much more than with other routines. Let’s take the squat again to explain this fact. For example, if your squat maximum is 700 pounds and your training schedule calls for 5 sets of 5 reps once a week you will achieve a fairly high volume com-pared to other training programs. When 75% of 700 pounds (525 pounds) is done for 25 reps (5 x 5) you end up with a total squat tonnage of 13125 pounds per week. This tonnage is determined by the work sets only and not the warm up sets (this is the standard approach in the 3x3 program). Now take a look at the total squat tonnage of the 3x3 system. In week four you use 64% of 700 lbs. which is 448 pounds for a maximum of 40 reps (8 sets of 5 reps). The total tonnage of only one workout is 17920 pounds. You repeat this workout twice and you end up with a total squat tonnage of 35840 pounds per week. That is over two and a half times the volume of the other program. The 3x3 system creates a workload stimulus that forces the muscles to work much harder and therefore to grow faster and get stronger.
Preparations: Before you start with the 3x3 system you need to find your current maximum in each of the three lifts. There are many ways to find this out and it’s up to you which one you choose. You can use your last competition lifts if the competition was recent (within the last 4 weeks). You can also go for a maximum single in the gym (important: use all the equipment you usually wear in competition). If you estimate your max based on reps you can use a variety of equations. A simple one is the Epley equation. In the Epley, you multiply the reps achieved by .033 and multiply the product of this times the weight used. Add the resulting product to the weight used and you have your max. Remember it does not make sense to choose weights that you cannot handle.
Once you have found your current maximum you can calcu-late your training weights for the next eight weeks. I will give you a more detailed explanation of this in future articles. However, before your start the program you will be asked to increase your current maximum in the squat by 25 lbs., the bench press by 10 lbs. and the deadlift by 15 lbs. This will be your new projected maximum and it will be this number that you will base your training. The training weights will be 58-64 percent of this projected maximum in phase I and 60-95 percent in phase II.
Phase I- Weeks 1-4 - High Volume Phase: By doing a lot of sets and reps you will reach a high volume during phase I. This set and rep scheme builds muscle mass, strength and helps to improve your coordination and technique on each of the competition lifts.
Summary: Phase I Day l
squat: 5-8x5
bench: 6-8x6
deadlift: 5-8x5 Day 2
squat: 5-8x5
bench: 6-8x6
deadlift: 5-8x5 Day 3
squat: 5-8x5
bench: 6-8x6
deadlift: 5-8x5
The total number of workouts in phase I is 12. This is three workouts per week. Make sure to rest one day between the workouts and rest two days after the completion of one training week. I used to work out on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. With this approach I had two days off on the weekend which really helped me to recuperate.
You will squat, bench and deadlift in every workout. Yes - you squat, bench and deadlift three times a week. That’s too much? How do you know? Have you ever tried it? You will not be doing any assistance work, which means that you have all your energy available for the three competition lifts. By the way, I’ve worked with Olympic lifters and they train the squat six times a week. They break it down to four front squat sessions and two back squat sessions. In these workouts they used some heavy poundages. If these lifters were overtrained it is of no consequence because they won a bronze and a silver medal in the superheavyweight category at the 1988 Olympic Games in Seoul.
The sets and reps are the same in every workout. Five to eight sets of five reps for the squat and deadlift and six to eight sets of six reps for the bench press.
You work with four different percentages during phase I, but you stay with one percentage for each training week. This means you will use a particular weight for each exercise and work with it for three workouts or one training week. The next week of training will have you using a higher percentage and therefore a higher weight. That way you increase the weights every week. Make sure to use no equipment, except a power-lifting belt.
Phase II - Week 5-8 - Competition Phase: During phase II you will reduce the volume dramatically and increase the intensity week by week. This helps you to adapt to the heavier weights. You will use powerlifting equipment (suit, belt, wraps, and bench shirt) for every heavy lift (1-2 reps). The intention of phase II is to build power, maximum strength and improve your technique with heavy weight.
As in phase I, the total number of workouts in phase Ills 12. There are also three workouts per week. Make sure to get plenty of rest between the workouts. You will still squat, bench and deadlift in every workout. The sets and reps in the daily workouts will vary. Each exercise is divided in two parts:
Technique and power training. You will be performing three sets of three reps for the squat and deadlift and five sets of four reps for the bench press. The training weight is 60 percent of your projected maximum and it and it will be con-stant for the next four weeks.
Maximum strength training. You will use 80-95 percent of your calculated maximum for one to two sets of one rep for each exercise. Train maximum strength on only one exercise per day. I used to max out as follows: deadlift on Monday (day 1), bench press on Wednesday (day 2) and squat on Friday (day 3).
Summary: Phase II Day l
squat: 3x3
bench: 5x4
deadlift: 1-2x1 Day 2
squat: 3x3
bench: 1-2x1
deadlift: 3x3 Day 3
squat: 1-2x1
bench: 5x4
deadlift: 3x3
While the percentages for the technique training will be constant, the percentages for the maximum strength training will be increased weekly by five percent.
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10-22-2005, 06:20 AM #7
Very comprehensive post
What are the percentages used per week per phase?
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10-22-2005, 06:21 PM #8
Think i've got it
Phase 1
Week 1 = 58%
Week 2 = 60%
Week 3 = 62%
Week 4 = 64%
Phase 2
Tech Week 1-4 60%
ME Week 1 80%
ME Week 2 85%
ME Week 3 90%
ME Week 4 95%
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10-24-2005, 08:49 AM #9Originally Posted by ant_8u
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10-24-2005, 11:21 AM #10
Thanks Doc
I've decided to go with this program instead of the EAS bench program i wrote about in my thread
This is my first program geared towards powerlifting
Is this a good routine to begin powerlifting with?
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10-24-2005, 12:14 PM #11Originally Posted by ant_8u
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11-27-2005, 05:42 AM #12
ok, i'm starting week five of the program tomorrow
my question is how do i warm up for the singles?
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11-28-2005, 10:47 AM #13
no set way, i would use triples and singles to warm up. here for my press, i would do 135 2 sets of 3 reps, 225 for a double, 275 - 315 for a single, than start my working sets from there. warm upo until you feel ready, i am not a good example, i jump alot of weight quickly.
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11-28-2005, 10:47 AM #14
how do youlike the program?
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12-04-2005, 04:55 AM #15
the program is really good
Weeks 1 & 2 weren't too bad
3 & 4 nearly killed me
Just finished week 5,
easiest week so far because i'm at the start of the second phase now
I think i am stronger but cannot tell for sure until the end of the program
All in all, i'm happy with the program
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12-21-2005, 04:29 PM #16
I finished the program and had some excellent results
8 weeks ago my lifts were as follows:
Squat 200lbs
Bench 175lbs
Deadlift 400lbs
My new lifts are as follows:
Squat 375lbs
Bench 300lbs
Deadlift 520lbs
I am still relatively new to powerlifting and think that has also helped with my strength increases
I think the increase is down to improved technique as well as strength
I would just like to say a big thankyou to Doc. Sust for telling me about this program
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12-21-2005, 04:47 PM #17
Damn.... good job!!!
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12-27-2005, 11:33 AM #18Originally Posted by Blown_SC
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04-02-2006, 10:59 PM #19
re
I'm currently trying this routine that Doc Sus mentioned in this thread and that ant8u did.
I'm currently going into Phase II Week 3 tomorrow. My legs were sore as hell during the first week, and still quite sore in the 2nd, but I made it thru it.
I started the 8 week program on Monday 2/20/06. These were my starting strengths
Bench Press 1RM x315
Smith Squat 1RM x390 (My gym does not have a real squat rack)
Deadlift 1RM x365 (This was a rough estimate since I have never really done deads on a consistent basis)
I can tell my strentgh is going up some, but I have been lacking some with diet, and big time with not enough sleep. My deads will be much higher for sure, mainly because I did not max out on them and just estimated my max.
This week I will attempt my 90% of my 1RMs
355 @ deads
305 @ bench
375 @ squat
next week 95% of 1RMs
370 @ deads
320 @ bench
400 @ squat
This routine is good and helped me look at things in a whole new light. I never would have considered performing the same three lifts three times/week, atleast not now, maybe when I was younger and didn't know any better I would have. But this makes sense in that if you are looking to gain in those three lifts, it makes sense to focus on them so much, but also to perform lifts at different percentages so as to be able to work on things like speed, form, or even getting accustomed to heavier wieghted lifts with the phase two lifts.
The program has helped and I will be posting my final results in 2 weeks. I might start looking into the westside training that I've already heard a lot of good things about on this website. My interests lie mostly in strength not muscle size. I am 5' 10" and 190#s. Thanks for your help Doc Sus and the many others who have posted about their routines on here.
Later,
Cdub/Hans
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04-03-2006, 12:09 PM #20
cool keep us posted on your results!!!
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04-03-2006, 07:48 PM #21Originally Posted by Doc.Sust
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04-03-2006, 08:11 PM #22
i have one question about this though,, as you said before olympic lifters do perform exercises suchs as high pulls and such, could you do rack pulls and board press, ect... exercises that mimic the big 3 ??
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04-04-2006, 03:41 PM #23Originally Posted by ant_8u
very impressive!!
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04-04-2006, 08:40 PM #24
Hell yeah nice post Doc sust! I am gonna give it a try and see how it does for me thanks bump.
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07-18-2006, 04:34 PM #25
This looks like a awsome program but need a questioned answered. Doc could you please tell how many min's rest between sets for ea phase.
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10-26-2006, 08:49 PM #26
This is unreadable...Ever heard of paragraph or just don't Care??
Originally Posted by Doc.Sust
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10-27-2006, 09:17 AM #27
well leader only a dumb jackass like youcant figure out what it says because lets face it, you cant speak or read english very well. keep up your smart ass atititude,and you will be banned from the board so fast your head spin. this is strike 2, one more and you are done
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10-27-2006, 12:46 PM #28
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10-29-2006, 12:42 AM #29
gone and good riddens to trash like this!!!
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10-29-2006, 06:50 AM #30
hey leader05 why dont you get off the docs nuts.
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