any1 do olympic lifts???

**Squatman51** · 03-24-2006, 05:35 PM

anyone do olympic lifts to help with your explosiveness??? Does it help you in powerlifting?

**powerliftmike** · 03-25-2006, 09:36 PM

I dont train them, mainly cause my technique sucks. Haha. They will build explosive power and should raise your DL and SQ. You may want to stick to power cleans and not full clean and jerks.

**Phildude** · 03-27-2006, 10:12 AM

I am confused because it seems everything I look up explains them in different ways.

Power cleans: This is just where you pick it up like deadlift, then clean it to your shoulders, then put it back down by your knees, and back to the ground, then rinse, lather, and repeat. Right?

**powerliftmike** · 03-27-2006, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Phildude

I am confused because it seems everything I look up explains them in different ways.

Power cleans: This is just where you pick it up like deadlift, then clean it to your shoulders, then put it back down by your knees, and back to the ground, then rinse, lather, and repeat. Right?

A power clean is a clean to your shoulders then drop it (gym owners love this, lol). Its not an olympic lift but its similar and olympic lifters train it alot.

**Phildude** · 03-27-2006, 08:27 PM

Thanks for the help PLMike.

**Squatman51** · 03-27-2006, 11:54 PM

[QUOTE=powerliftmike]A power clean is a clean to your shoulders then drop it (gym owners love this, lol). QUOTE]

hahahah

**Velkar182** · 03-28-2006, 05:14 PM

If you want to try something new to increase your bench, try push presses. I do olympic style training twelve wks a year. I found that clean and jerks made my DL and bench go up. SO I tried push presses in my pre cyle before preparing for a meet. (I trained olympic style because I toyed with competing in a weightlifting meet. I am nuts about strength athletics!) My bench was stuck at 457 two years ago and push presses tore down the plateau.

**newguy86** · 04-04-2006, 09:49 PM

what is push press?

**Squatman51** · 04-04-2006, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by newguy86

what is push press?

a standing military press except you use you legs to help drive the weight up

**Phildude** · 04-05-2006, 11:34 AM

Where would one put in push presses and power cleans in their powerlifting schedule?

1) Would push presses replace military's?
2) Would you do a clean and press instead of power cleans and push presses separate?
3) I see guys from the football team do clean and press after doing bench presses, this a good schedule?

I appreciate any help.

***Doc.Sust*** · 04-05-2006, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Squatman51

anyone do olympic lifts to help with your explosiveness??? Does it help you in powerlifting?

power cleans form the floor olympic style really help your deadlift alot, worked wonders for me, ithe snatch is a a waste IMO for powerlifting.the cleans help alot with your speed and initial pull in the dead. took me form a 560 dead to over 600 raw at 181 with no drugs in less than half a year,kep them light,i started to get goofy with them and was doing sets with 225lbs and above , that was to much work to add into all the work i was doing for the squatsand deads,, keep it light, about 30% of your current dead max is in the ballpark

**powerliftmike** · 04-05-2006, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Phildude

Where would one put in push presses and power cleans in their powerlifting schedule?

1) Would push presses replace military's?
2) Would you do a clean and press instead of power cleans and push presses separate?
3) I see guys from the football team do clean and press after doing bench presses, this a good schedule?

I appreciate any help.

Its basically replaced militarys for me. When the weight is really light I dont use my legs tho. So basically "cheat" to get more weight. You are not bodybuilding so this type of cheating is excellent for insane strength. I usually do push press, cleaning from floor after one of my bench press days. Many times I just go to just above my head and not lockout, since I can then use more weight to stress the delts. I dont want to overtrain the triceps either.

**Phildude** · 04-06-2006, 11:38 AM

So you don't do push presses on the same day as your bench day then? I usually do militaries right after I do bench. But I'll switch it up then, and replace militaries with push presses.

**xmenWolverine** · 05-15-2006, 09:46 PM

always do power cleans and snatchs first as these exercises wear down the central nervous system. you have to be explosive on the second phase of these lifts otherwise you end up using the upper body instead of the legs.

Whether it helps in power lifting i would say no.
I would say plyometrics would help your squat be more explosive.

***Doc.Sust*** · 05-17-2006, 09:10 AM

olympic lifts are like plyometrics, it does help your powerlifts, trust me

**Phildude** · 05-17-2006, 09:04 PM

Would it be beneficial to do an olympic lifting routine for a bit then come back to powerlifting? I am really eyeing the olympic lifts I like them a lot.

***Doc.Sust*** · 05-18-2006, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by Phildude

Would it be beneficial to do an olympic lifting routine for a bit then come back to powerlifting? I am really eyeing the olympic lifts I like them a lot.

i tried that years ago, it is better to combine them with the powerlifts, do the olympic lifts before you do the powerlifts, not after.the snatch didnt do much for me, the clean did the most .also i occasionaly did the jerk with the clean, but it didnt really do much for the pwerlifts either.when i did the olympic training only, and didnt do any powerlifts, my squat and dead numbers didnt increase,my speed did and i noticed it was easier to go even lower in the squat and i was more prone to ge deeper than normal with all my reps

**j3374** · 05-22-2006, 09:21 PM

I'm taking lessons for the Olifting at a special gym to get the technique down.

***Narkissos*** · 05-22-2006, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by Doc.Sust

i tried that years ago, it is better to combine them with the powerlifts, do the olympic lifts before you do the powerlifts, not after.

Ditto.

I read a study that noted that explosive 'full body' exercises prior to a multi-joint exercise increases net force.

I use hang cleans or full cleans before militaries or deadlifts.

It helped me to increase both.

Originally Posted by Doc.Sust

the snatch didnt do much for me, the clean did the most .also i occasionaly did the jerk with the clean, but it didnt really do much for the pwerlifts either.when i did the olympic training only, and didnt do any powerlifts, my squat and dead numbers didnt increase,my speed did and i noticed it was easier to go even lower in the squat and i was more prone to ge deeper than normal with all my reps

I noticed that executing a multi-joint exercise for an acclimation rep of two prior to the set increased my explosive strength.

Exmaple.. Before squatting i would do an explosive deadlift.. no weight.. just rapid firing of my glutes and hams.

Then i'd go do a set of squats...

I was better able to explosively recruit muscles in this manner.

Hope that assists

Nark

***Doc.Sust*** · 05-23-2006, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

Ditto.

I read a study that noted that explosive 'full body' exercises prior to a multi-joint exercise increases net force.

I use hang cleans or full cleans before militaries or deadlifts.

It helped me to increase both.

I noticed that executing a multi-joint exercise for an acclimation rep of two prior to the set increased my explosive strength.

Exmaple.. Before squatting i would do an explosive deadlift.. no weight.. just rapid firing of my glutes and hams.

Then i'd go do a set of squats...

I was better able to explosively recruit muscles in this manner.

Hope that assists

Nark

yes the explosive movement of a similar motion to the one you want to execute to max ability will aid huge in muscle recruitment and overall speed.speed is a key component in the Plifting world. strength x speed = power!