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    truckin35 is offline New Member
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    Ideas about shredding off BF?

    So I got this BF around my stomach, can't loose it. My diet is pretty good, and I do about an hour to an hour and a half of cardio a day. Ive been dropping some of it, but I am getting a little impatient. Any ideas?

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    How's your diet?

    Clen /t3/keto combo would help take that extra fat off.

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    Maybe tried just the Clen first, then go from there...To my understanding you may lose some muscle mass with clen/t3 combo,And don't know about you but i sure don't like that ideal.But I have not tried the combo thou.....

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    Been reading up on clen , and there are a few guys who have said that at first they thought they have been seeing results, but now they arent seeing much, does anyone else have any idea before I bite the bullet and buy it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by truckin35 View Post
    Been reading up on clen, and there are a few guys who have said that at first they thought they have been seeing results, but now they arent seeing much, does anyone else have any idea before I bite the bullet and buy it?
    Been taking clen for 3wks now & my dosage is up to 160mcgs a day & still at this dose I dont feel any effects from it.I pretty sure the weight I am dropping & the fat is from a strict diet & lots of cardio.But there are others members on here that swear by it!!!!

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    alright mate thought this might help i saw it the other day it was originally posted by "damienm05" not trying to take any praise of his lol

    Eat carbs only when needed for energy if the goal is to cut body fat. For example, breakfast, pre-workout, and post-workout meals should all contain 40g or so of complex carbohydrates. All meals should have 30-40g of lean protein. Limit fat to your late meals that don't contain carbs as an alternative energy source. Of course, you'll still need to figure out your BMR and TDEE to know exactly how many calories you should be consuming but the foods you eat are everything.


    Interchangeable lean protein sources:

    The goal is to eat lean protein. Meats/other sources low in fat/carbs.

    Ground beef (93% lean or better)
    Lean steak (Flank, flat iron, or top sirloin)
    Bison sirloin (the highest quality red meat)
    Chicken breast
    Turkey breast
    Tuna (canned or sushi grade)
    Salmon
    Tilapia (mostly all white fish)
    All shellfish
    Venison
    Whey protein (post-workout recovery purposes only)
    Casein/Cottage cheese (before bed only)

    Black-list protein:

    Bacon
    Sausage
    Expensive fat-marbled Steaks (Ribeye, Strip, Filet)
    Pork and beef ribs
    Pork/Lamb chops
    Restaurant ground beef (80/20 fat – most burgers)
    Duck
    Chicken legs/thighs
    Chicken skin
    Cheese

    Interchangeable complex carbohydrates:

    Complex carbs are now your creed. These are slower-digesting, natural, low on the glycemic index carbohydrates that digest slowly and provide us with sustained energy. They do not drastically affect our blood sugar and do not cause insulin spikes. Thus our body sees no reason to store them as fat, it would rather burn them for energy. Simple carbs such as enriched white breads/pastas/rice/potatoes/sugars (including most fruit) cause insulin spikes and are high GI foods. They should not be eaten when on a strict diet. Fruit can be consumed early in the day or pre/post-workout because of it’s high nutritional value but should usually be avoided due to being a form of simple sugar. Remember, healthy, low-calorie foods aren’t always the correct foods and such is the case with fruit.

    Oats/Oatmeal
    Grits/Cornmeal
    Unsalted/non-buttered popcorn (great, low-cal snack)
    Sweet potato (the best choice)
    Butternut squash
    Whole wheat pasta (not enriched)
    Organic whole wheat bread (not enriched wonder bread crap)
    Brown rice
    Ezekiel bread
    Swedish grain bread
    Gluten free bread
    Wheat couscous
    Corn
    Quinoa
    Lentils
    Beans
    Many more, look up the GI (glycemic index) for healthy choices

    Black-list carbohydrates:

    White pasta
    White Potatoes
    White bread
    Baguette
    Bagels
    Cookies, cake, muffins, cupcakes, all sweets basically.
    White couscous
    White rice
    You get the idea…

    Interchangeable fat sources:

    We look for fat sources that are high in omega-3, 6, and 9 fatty acids. Also, many are high in protein. We do not want saturated fats such as butter, cream, meat fat. We don’t want test tube fats like trans (the worst). We want mono/polyunsaturated fats that our body can use for something other than calories. Remember, even good fats are high in calories.

    Natural peanut butter (no sugar added, just roasted peanuts)
    Natural almond butter
    Cashews
    Almonds
    Peanuts
    Flax seeds/oil
    Salmon and Trout (great fatty proteins)
    Fish oil
    Extra virgin olive oil (should be used on all veggies/salads)
    Chia seeds
    Grapeseed oil
    Macadamia nut oil
    Udo's oil
    Walnut oil
    Sunflower seeds/oil

    Acceptable miscellaneous foods:

    These foods don’t provide much as far as macronutrients but are great for adding vitamins/minerals and taste. Notice some of these other foods are dairy. Dairy is another animal’s milk. We lack the enzymes to digest it as they do and it’s high in fat/sugar. It should only be eaten early in the day for nutrient purposes with the exception of whey and casein (cottage cheese).

    Skim milk (Hood brand is only 45 calories and 3g of sugar per cup)
    Greek yogurt (no sugar added)
    Berries (all berries are much lower in sugar than other fruits and packed with fiber/nutrients – eat berries)
    Green Vegetables. These are technically carbs but they are packed with fiber (a type of carb that isn’t used as energy or stored). In bodybuilding/nutrition – we refer to most vegetables as fibrous carbohydrates. While a serving of Broccoli may have 6g of carbs, 5 are from fiber. Meaning that it contains only 1g of storable carbohydrates. In addition, green vegetables are a calorie neutral/negative food (our body uses more calories to digest them than they contain – think celery). Veggies should be eaten with every meal. Every day. If you do this, you can become almost impervious to getting sick. Some vegetables are better than others for healthy diets.
    Many non-green vegetables. Most are fine – just check labels, some have a good bit of sugar and should be eaten in moderation only (carrots)

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