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    Quote Originally Posted by adam15425 View Post
    I ran it at 20mg/day during my clomid/nolva/aromasin pct. Got my blood work back weeks afer I was off of the pct. Test levels were higher than when I started my cycle. I believe low doses won't fully suppress one or even begin to sippress someone(<.31mg/kg). Its just the people that want to run crazy high doses and expect AAS like gains which is not going to happen. Like you said it is not a replacement for test I did experience some body recomp while on s4. I kept 80% of my gains and almost all strength gained on cycle. I believe S4 has its benefits just not as a standalone. I'm getting more bloodwork in April after discontinuance of the S4, I don't believe I will be suppressed at all. Also, I've had no vision sides.
    Test levels were higher... Well, but I think you experience the same like our friend Bass. Your testestorone levels have risen due to Nolvadex (that stimulates testosterone production in the liver, if I am not wrong), but your endocrinal system may not have fully recovered yet and your natural testosterone production may be much lower. When you do your next bloodwork in April, your testosterone will be very probably lower.

    Anyway, 20 mg/day is certainly too low a dose to cause any suppression. But as I already said elsewhere, I was almost 100% suppressed after my Anavar cycle and I had to take 35 mg/day to keep my gains. At any lower dose, I experienced slow strength loses.

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    ^ Don't remember that being in my posts before?

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    Well I am still on PCT and will keep using it till recovered.

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    do you ever plan on takin a cycle with test?

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    Yes I actually got my test c right now and will wait till I am good to go again and give it a shot.

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    Back up to 190's on and off. Going to stick there and recover properly.

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    good, youll enjoy it i ran cyp for my first time. Gona do test e and deca this fall. Good luck on your recovery and glad to hear your better.

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