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I need to know??
OK I AM FIXING TO GET STARTED ON THE STEROIDS AND NEED SOME HELP ON WHAT I NEED TO GET? I AM WANTING TO GAIN IN MY UPPER BODY.
I AM ABOUT 160lbs 5ft 11'' AND WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT I NEED TO GET STARTED ON?IF YOU NEED ANY MORE INFO PLEASE LET ME KNOW THANKS.
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You need food dude. Gotta go check out the diet forum and get your macros in line. What are the rest of your stats?
Age?
BF?
Training?
Previous cycle experience?
AR's ORIGINAL ANABOLIC OUTLAW~ [RIP-8/20/11]
Dude!!!!!! Pitch a tent in the kitchen and don't leave until you've gained 30 lb's!
Si vis pacem, para bellum
^^^ LMAO.........Pitch a tent in the kitchen....
Retired~ AR-Hall of Famer ~ "Enforcer"
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30 years old i work out about 4 days a week for about 1hr and 1/2 i have started the diet i am doing what the diet tells me to do but i want to use a couple of cycles to get bigger and do the diet plan also and from now on.no cycle experience but i have friends that have done it and they are pretty dam big now. i cant tell you bf i dont know but if i had to guess about 20 to 30%.Originally Posted by Ostrich
Si vis pacem, para bellum
As his goes everywhere. BIG thats for you.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
dam left out hair......not as funny now.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Your bf is to high and you have not been lifting long enough
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Get your diet in check, get done to 12 to 15 percent bf. Work out for a few more years, try to go natural before you start a cycle. Read the novice cycle threads for info on what to do, but you need to WAIT
New Member
ok can i get some help on what cycle i should start?
Anabolic Voice of Reason
Like everyone else is saying, if your BF% is 20 - 30, then you need some serious Diet help before you start taking any AAS
Senior Member
Post a pic and we can tell you ur bf%. At 5'11" and 160lbs I seriously doubt you are 20-30% unless you have very little muscle mass. Either way get yourself in the diet forum and learn some stuff.
Post Cycle Extraordinaire~GOT PCT?
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=344896
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BIG/08!
Banned/SCAMMER
If you are seriosuly going to cycle and already have your mind made up, go with a Test Enanthate only cycle for 10-12 weeks dosed at 500mg/week. That is by far the best starter cycle for anyone. You will gain about 15-20lbs of muscle but you really should get your bf down a bit before you do this because you have to eat like CRAZY (4,000 calories a day plus) to gain the most. Think about it bro.
Also, make sure you have at least 4 boxes of CLomid and 4 boxes of Nolvadex on hand for Post Cycle Therapy to get your levels back to normal when you are done or else you will lose mostly ALL of your gains and also the few hundreds dollars you spent as well. Best of luck.
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thats a half assed pct at best
my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013
New Member
I got told to take test,deca and dbal? For the first cycle.lmk
Anabolic Member
w/o diet you have nothing. your gains will be crap. post what you eat in a day, total cals and %'tages
Anabolic Member
do you work out your legs
New Member
yes but i have been working on my upper body more!!
Banned
look, steroids are a little pocket of oil in your muscle. that pocket doesnt become muscle, your food becomes muscle. the steroids help put your food together.
you are missing the nain ingredient, food. at your height and body weight its apparent you eat whatever you feel like whenever you get hungry. there is a strict science to dieting to grow. without that you dont have shit.
if you decide to take that cycle be sure to take before pictures and then pictures 2 months after you stop then post them on the board so we can try to guess which was before which was after. no one will be able to.
Senior Member
Agreed!!
New Member
I just started my diet last week.
8:00
3 eggs
1 muffin
a lot of bacon..
2 bowls of oatmeal
10:00
snack time
16oz of tuna
wheat crackers
11:30
2tuna sandwiches
2:00
ham sandwich
6:00
2chicken breast
or boneless chicken breast or any kind of red meat and vegg
8:00
go and work out till 9:00 or 9:30
10:00
go to bed
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sandwiches?? baccon??? muffins??? crackers??? no post workout meal??? no carbs after 2pm????
Knowledgeable Member
need to work on that diet
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Associate Member
I would just use Clen and T3 and forget the AS. Why are u going to work out with that anyways? With BF% like that u will not see anything.
New Member
the body fat i got told is more like 10 to 15%
Anabolic Member
there is a big diff between 10 to 15% and 20 to 30%. either way you need a diet that makes sense. are you training legs?
New Member
yes i am i work out my upper body 3 times a week for about an hour a day and my lower body about 2 times a week
Retired~ AR-Hall of Famer ~ "Enforcer"
what split are you following in your workouts?
New Member
upper body monday-wensday-friday
lower body tuesday-thursday
New Member
sorry what are you talking about i am kind of new to the forum thing and some of the stuff on here i do not understand if you know what i mean!
Retired~ AR-Hall of Famer ~ "Enforcer"
ok, you need to spend some time in the workout section, you definitely are not training correctly at all.
AR's Pitbull ~Vet~
Buddy we have already been over this, whats it going to take. You don't even know what a split workout routine is you SHOULD NOT BE TAKING STEROIDS. and that diet is horrible
Banned
i got all the links you need bruh
workout
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3
New Member
ok what about the diet plan?
Anabolic Member
there is a diet forum here. read the stickies at the top of the section
Retired AR Monitor
You have gotten the best advice so far in this thread alone.
You are very new to the whole weightlifting game so take time to learn it, adjust your diet, start gaining some good lean muscle mass, then start RESEARCHING AAS. It will be the best thing you can do.
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