why is a banana bad post work out?

[billyyb]

just heard this mentioned on this board a few times and wondered what the reason for this is?

[terraj]

IMO they are fine as PWO CHO source.

[Tlee8769]

http://bananasweb.com/bananas/Health...its+of+Bananas excellent source for pwo but switch it up use couple times a week and switch with strawberries blackberries blueberries mangos pineapple cranberries to much bananas you can develop a sensitivity towards it like I did so just rotate your foods. best of luck.

[Gucks]

there not bad as such PWO, but they're not great. their mostly fructose and fibre. they are fine for most people, but there are better choices for PWO carbs.

and dont listen to this guy Tlee...hes against taking protein shakes! their not an excellent PWO source, they're mediocre at best.

[Nephets]

just heard this mentioned on this board a few times and wondered what the reason for this is?

Most will tell you to stay away from simple carbs post workout and stick with complex carbs.

[jimmyinkedup]

there not bad as such PWO, but they're not great. their mostly fructose and fibre. they are fine for most people, but there are better choices for PWO carbs.

and dont listen to this guy Tlee...hes against taking protein shakes! their not an excellent PWO source, they're mediocre at best.

The starch in bananas also turns into glucose and sucrose ...just so you know.
They are a fine post work out choice for many. Surely better imo than the mega doses of simple sugars like dextrose that many use.
JMO....

[gbrice75]

I don't know where you ever got the idea that they're BAD; they're not. It's just that there are much better sources available IMO, so they're not ideal. However, a banana + something more substantial (oats for example) would be a great PWO carb combo.

PS - I don't know how much converts to glucose/sucrose vs. fructose, but regardless, I agree with Jimmy on that being better than dumping straight sugar (dex/malto) right into your system.

[Damienm05]

The starch in bananas also turns into glucose and sucrose ...just so you know.
They are a fine post work out choice for many. Surely better imo than the mega doses of simple sugars like dextrose that many use.
JMO....

This.

[marcus300]

Ive been using them in my PWO for over 20 years, they are great IMHO and I much prefer them to be in than out.

[gbrice75]

Ive been using them in my PWO for over 20 years, they are great IMHO and I much prefer them to be in than out.

What else do you consume (carbs) along with the banana? I doubt it's just the banana by itself. Surely a man of your stature is getting more than 25g-ish of carbs PWO!

[M302_Imola]

What else do you consume (carbs) along with the banana? I doubt it's just the banana by itself. Surely a man of your stature is getting more than 25g-ish of carbs PWO!

My prediction is Oats but I'm sure Marcus will set us straight

[Tlee8769]

there not bad as such PWO, but they're not great. their mostly fructose and fibre. they are fine for most people, but there are better choices for PWO carbs.

and dont listen to this guy Tlee...hes against taking protein shakes! their not an excellent PWO source, they're mediocre at best.

Hey bud do some real research before you open your trap you keep spilling filth out of your mouth. You state all these thing but have zero proof to back up all you theories so keep your uneducated crap to yourself. And im not against protein shakes i am against dairy based protein shakes read the links i provided on other page all the evidence you need clown.

[gbrice75]

Hey bud do some real research before you open your trap you keep spilling filth out of your mouth. You state all these thing but have zero proof to back up all you theories so keep your uneducated crap to yourself. And im not against protein shakes i am against dairy based protein shakes read the links i provided on other page all the evidence you need clown.

No need to flame or have an attitude about it. I think we can all have an educated conversation without resorting to this kind of trash.

[jimmyinkedup]

Hey bud do some real research before you open your trap you keep spilling filth out of your mouth. You state all these thing but have zero proof to back up all you theories so keep your uneducated crap to yourself. And im not against protein shakes i am against dairy based protein shakes read the links i provided on other page all the evidence you need clown.

The links you posted in the other thread have been deleted - read the thread. You cant post links.
Also , I have no problem with different opinions and everyone is entitled to theirs. Im not sure who you are to tell people they are uneducated and spewing filth because they happen to not agree with you. Its not just here , you have done so in a few threads with a few different people. Im not saying I agree or disagree with your opinions - thats not the point. Your perception that your opinion (whether shared by others or not) is fact and the only correct option is not very prudent. It leads to close minded ignorance - the very thing you accuse others of.
Just a thought.....
Carry on but please watch the personal insults - that applies to everyone but your responses seem to include insulting comments and incite them in return....
Calm down , have a chocolate milk shake *LOL* j/k.......

[FireGuy]

^^Co-Signed.

[marcus300]

What else do you consume (carbs) along with the banana? I doubt it's just the banana by itself. Surely a man of your stature is getting more than 25g-ish of carbs PWO!

I stick with whey,oats,banana and creatine. I find this combination to suit my body but I do change it around depending on the workout.but that's my basic start for ten.

[gbrice75]

I stick with whey,oats,banana and creatine. I find this combination to suit my body but I do change it around depending on the workout.but that's my basic start for ten.

I kind of figured that. Oats and banana are almost a staple!

[billyyb]

ahh cool, well i also have whey, oats and banana PWO so all good then! cheers for clearin that up guys

[M302_Imola]

I stick with whey,oats,banana and creatine. I find this combination to suit my body but I do change it around depending on the workout.but that's my basic start for ten.

Looks like we have the same PWO meal except I add in about 3-4g of beta alanine and 1000mg vit c. Have you tried beta alanine...thoughts?

[Damienm05]

^^ It gives me a weird tingling feeling that I find quite uncomfortable.

[RaginCajun]

^^ It gives me a weird tingling feeling that I find quite uncomfortable.

is this because of its NO effects?

[jimmyinkedup]

is this because of its NO effects?

It really exerts little effects in the way of NO. Thats hype used by supp companies.
The direct benfit of BA is that it increases carnosine levels.
Carnosine is definately a powewrful anti oxidant and is concentrated in skelatal muscle so it prevents oxidative damage in muscle. It also does this in the nervous system as well.
The next benfit of carnosine and the one that supp companies hang their hat on most (NO being the second) is that it was shown in one study on rats that increased carnosine resulted in increased contractile force in muscle and decreased fatigue.
The tingling is known as parathesia and must be from BA exerting some effects on nerves. Usually after a couple weeks of use the tingling stops.

[Kawigirl]

Agreed with Marcus...I've been using PWO for years....

[Gucks]

Looks like we have the same PWO meal except I add in about 3-4g of beta alanine and 1000mg vit c. Have you tried beta alanine...thoughts?

y do u take beta PWO? its usually a pre-WO stim. i love it, been taking it for about 3 months pre-WO and its pretty cheap (i get 1kg for about €20 and u only need 2g usually, i take 4g). some people hate the jitters u get from it, it could be a placebo thing because i dont know of any actuall research that it benefits ur workout but for me its a staple supp.

[Gucks]

It really exerts little effects in the way of NO. Thats hype used by supp companies.
The direct benfit of BA is that it increases carnosine levels.
Carnosine is definately a powewrful anti oxidant and is concentrated in skelatal muscle so it prevents oxidative damage in muscle. It also does this in the nervous system as well.
The next benfit of carnosine and the one that supp companies hang their hat on most (NO being the second) is that it was shown in one study on rats that increased carnosine resulted in increased contractile force in muscle and decreased fatigue.
The tingling is known as parathesia and must be from BA exerting some effects on nerves. Usually after a couple weeks of use the tingling stops.

i never actually knew why it gives u a tingle, thank u jimmy :P

[Gucks]

is this because of its NO effects?

AAKG is whats used as an NO precursor.

[Gucks]

Hey bud do some real research before you open your trap you keep spilling filth out of your mouth. You state all these thing but have zero proof to back up all you theories so keep your uneducated crap to yourself. And im not against protein shakes i am against dairy based protein shakes read the links i provided on other page all the evidence you need clown.

wow, thats some big talk. im not a fan of pissing contests m8 so shake it off. i disagree with you about dairy based shakes and i disagree with u about bananas PWO, they're a descent PWO food and they're used by alot of bodybuilders but they're not amazing like ur standing them up to be. they're descent.

[M302_Imola]

^^ It gives me a weird tingling feeling that I find quite uncomfortable.

Some get this, some don't...it has never made me tingle. Like Jimmy said it should go away after a few weeks.

It really exerts little effects in the way of NO. Thats hype used by supp companies.
The direct benfit of BA is that it increases carnosine levels.
Carnosine is definately a powewrful anti oxidant and is concentrated in skelatal muscle so it prevents oxidative damage in muscle. It also does this in the nervous system as well.
The next benfit of carnosine and the one that supp companies hang their hat on most (NO being the second) is that it was shown in one study on rats that increased carnosine resulted in increased contractile force in muscle and decreased fatigue.
The tingling is known as parathesia and must be from BA exerting some effects on nerves. Usually after a couple weeks of use the tingling stops.

right on the money Jimmy!

y do u take beta PWO? its usually a pre-WO stim. i love it, been taking it for about 3 months pre-WO and its pretty cheap (i get 1kg for about €20 and u only need 2g usually, i take 4g). some people hate the jitters u get from it, it could be a placebo thing because i dont know of any actuall research that it benefits ur workout but for me its a staple supp.

correct, beta alanine is found in a lot of preworkout stims. I take it before and after my workout as I take my creatine the same way. The reason I do this is because it works synergetically w/ creatine so a little before and after works for me.