First Time Cycle...Anavar Only

[Bretpip]

Okay people, first off I've been lurking this site for a long time now and I would like to say to the people on here that really try and help with solid advice THANK YOU! Looking foward to becoming an active member.

My Stats:
Age: 34
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 195lbs
BF%: 18%

My diet is okay...Could be better and I'm getting that on point before I start anything. At the very least I eat little to no sugar/white flour, no processed foods, and very little dairy. About 240g of protein a day, carbs vary between 80-120g per day. Calories are about 3,000 per day.

I'm going to start a Var only cycle as soon as I get around 16% BF and my diet is on point. This is not something I woke up and decided to do one morning. I want to do it right so I have been researching it for about 6 months now. I'm a noob when it comes to gear, but not new to the gym. Went to the military right after HS and never looked back,I'm 34 now. However, this will be my first cycle ever and I decided to go with Var only to "get my feet wet" so to speak. I'm finding that it is getting a lot more difficult with age to mantain. I'm looking to shred up and add some lean mass. I will not be running test with it, I know many of you will bash that, but I'm trying to stick with one thing so I know where the results are coming from. I plan to up my training from 1 1/2 hours 6 days/week to about 3 hours 6 days/week. I workout at night, not sure if that changes anything, but I work about 60 hours per week and have a newborn so my options are slim.

I plan to run an 8 week cycle at 50mg ED 25mg at 8am and 25mg at 4pm. During cycle I will be running Milk Thistle, R-ALA, NAC, Flax Oil, and Policosanol. I will be running a PCT of Nolva for 4 weeks. (I know a lot of people say you don't need it) but I'm old enough and did enough research to know it is surperssive. Would rather be safe than sorry, why not spend a little more and just do it. Now one of my questions is I have come across two products that have nothing but great reviews, HC Generate and N2 Guard. Should I just use these intstead of the others during cycle or use these on top of everything else? Also, any advice on my plan would be great, if you guys see something wrong or just have some good knowledge please let me know. Or if I left anything out that you need to know again please just ask. If you're going to troll me just make it funny, and remember other people might read this and take bad advice if you're being a smartass. Remember you can only combat ignorance with truth, and I hate to say it, but ignorance is spreading faster than the clap these days.

Thanks in advance!

[lovbyts]

I though you said you have been lurking for quite a while???? If that is true you would have seen at least 1 var only cycle posted most every day and how it's not recommended and why.

[Bretpip]

Yeah I have, but it seems to be one of the most debated topics everywhere. I'm just here because I think this site has the best people as far as advice, but even here there are conflicting answers.

[Shadeed]

Few things to add:

1- limit training to only 45-60 minutes.
2- add test e as a base, you can go for the minimum 200-250mg per week or 500mg per week but in this case add an AI as well as hcg across the cycle (http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html).
3- forget about hcg generate.

[lovbyts]

Only conflicting advice I have seen is from the newbies who want to run it, not from the vets or mods who clearly point out why you should not run var alone and how a lot of var out there is not var, it's dbol because Var is expensive to produce and dbol is cheap but most people dont know the difference.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...le-review.html

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...your-eyes.html

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...questions.html

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-question.html

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...d-8-weeks.html

[Bretpip]

Thanks man! Question, so all this stuff I'm reading about hcg is bunk?

[lovbyts]

Thanks man! Question, so all this stuff I'm reading about hcg is bunk?

NO, where do you get that from?
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...njections.html

[Bretpip]

[QUOTE=lovbyts;6876143]Only conflicting advice I have seen is from the newbies who want to run it, not from the vets or mods who clearly point out why you should not run var alone and how a lot of var out there is not var, it's dbol because Var is expensive to produce and dbol is cheap but most people dont know the difference.


I can tell you it was very expensive, I know that does not mean it's real, but... Look man I'm not here looking to get into a cyber fight, I posted saying that I was noob man. While I was not a member I didn't really look who was what. This is not the only site I've been looking on for the last 6 months. I'm here because I feel that it's the best. That should say something. Also, I'm here to get good advice and take it so I do it right. Not one of those people that think they know things and don't. I know enough to know that I have a lot to learn.

[Bretpip]

Shadeed said forget about it, that's why.

[lovbyts]

Shadeed said forget about it, that's why.

Re read his post. Actually he said forget hcg generate. It's not the same as real HCG.

[Bretpip]

[QUOTE=lovbyts;6876146]NO, where do you get that from?
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Sorry man, should have said HC Generate not hcg.

[fit2bOld]

This is good advice above. Other sites think it's ok to take anything and everything.
This site is moderated by mature and educated members many with a long list of titles on the state, national, and pro stages.
Why would you look elsewhere.

[Bretpip]

Yeah, and I plan to take it. Like I said it's my first cycle and I want it to be right. Do have a question, Shadeed said I can run the minimum 200-250 test per week, would I only add the hcg and AI if I do the 500 per week instead?

[Bretpip]

This is good advice above. Other sites think it's ok to take anything and everything.
This site is moderated by mature and educated members many with a long list of titles on the state, national, and pro stages.
Why would you look elsewhere.

Yeah, and I plan to take it. Like I said it's my first cycle and I want it to be right. Do have a question, Shadeed said I can run the minimum 200-250 test per week, would I only add the hcg and AI if I do the 500 per week instead?

[fit2bOld]

Time to do some research. When you can propose a complete cycle it will show you took the time to educate yourself.
Patience grasshopper.

[MuscleInk]

Time to do some research. When you can propose a complete cycle it will show you took the time to educate yourself. Patience grasshopper.

Agreed. Learning on the fly is not the way to go. Put more time in to understanding cycles and what these hormones do and won't do and the real risks. It's not a sprint. It's a marathon that takes time and commitment.

[Bretpip]

Time to do some research. When you can propose a complete cycle it will show you took the time to educate yourself.
Patience grasshopper.

LOL, Rookie move. I'm not jumping into it, I found my answer. Not going to start anything until I know it's on point. Old enough to know when to pump the brakes.

[Cuz]

I seen ur at 18% bf u say. Ur a lil to high for var even at 16...id say 14 was max.. Need to run at least a maintenance test dose if u r not on trt. Test only is reccommended as a first cycle.

[Bretpip]

Agreed. Learning on the fly is not the way to go. Put more time in to understanding cycles and what these hormones do and won't do and the real risks. It's not a sprint. It's a marathon that takes time and commitment.

Pumping the brakes bro, here to learn.

[MuscleInk]

Pumping the brakes bro, here to learn.

Good move.

[Bretpip]

I seen ur at 18% bf u say. Ur a lil to high for var even at 16...id say 14 was max.. Need to run at least a maintenance test dose if u r not on trt. Test only is reccommended as a first cycle.

See that's where I'm getting conflicting reports. A lot of people say Var is mild enough, guess I should run test alone first to see where it gets me. Getting down to 14% at my age is difficult. I know diet is key, just hard with work...so many hours. Thanks!

[Bretpip]

Good move.

Not going to be one of these noobs acting like I know everything, you guys seem to want to help. Would be dumb not to take heed. I'm in an ongoing war against ignorance.

[Cuz]

See that's where I'm getting conflicting reports. A lot of people say Var is mild enough, guess I should run test alone first to see where it gets me. Getting down to 14% at my age is difficult. I know diet is key, just hard with work...so many hours. Thanks!

Var is stronger than people think. Believe me...it will supress your natty test. ..which is already going downhill with u being 34. You can get to 14% without help from drugs at your age.

[Cuz]

Real var is hard to find on the ugl market at the moment. Like others have said its expensive. New guys like steroid pills without the pain and hassel of a pin..
Bow up and inject ...test only first cycle...best regards

[MuscleInk]

See that's where I'm getting conflicting reports. A lot of people say Var is mild enough, guess I should run test alone first to see where it gets me. Getting down to 14% at my age is difficult. I know diet is key, just hard with work...so many hours. Thanks!

Anything worth doing is worth doing right. It takes time. Nothing happens fast or easy even with the aid of steroids. My buddy started transformation four years ago. He committed to his nutrition and training before he introduced steroids and did not waiver. He was balls to the wall committed and it showed. He's done two shows and preparing for a third. He's 54 now.

Is it easy? No.
Is it worth it? Hell yes!

[Bretpip]

Var is stronger than people think. Believe me...it will supress your natty test. ..which is already going downhill with u being 34. You can get to 14% without help from at your age.

Thnaks, we will see about the 14% LOL I'll give it my all. I'm in no hurry, want it to be right and healty. Will just running test first cycle like you said. You're not the only one that has said that. Been through sooooo many threads the past 6 months. You think I should drop BF% before test? Thanks a lot for your input, I mean that to everyone trying to help. Will be posting before and after pics and keeping people that care updated on my results.

[Bretpip]

Anything worth doing is worth doing right. It takes time. Nothing happens fast or easy even with the aid of steroids. My buddy started transformation four years ago. He committed to his nutrition and training before he introduced steroids and did not waiver. He was balls to the wall committed and it showed. He's done two shows and preparing for a third. He's 54 now.

Is it easy? No.
Is it worth it? Hell yes!

Bro hitting the brakes almost to a complete stop, been on this site for a day and already heard what I needed to hear. Perhaps not what I wanted to, but life seems to do that. Even if it's not what I wanted to hear it is motivating me more for some reason. lol

[MuscleInk]

Bro hitting the brakes almost to a complete stop, been on this site for a day and already heard what I needed to hear. Perhaps not what I wanted to, but life seems to do that. Even if it's not what I wanted to hear it is motivating me more for some reason. lol

Doing the right thing. The site and members will guide you to your goals. You'll get there.

[lovbyts]

Agreed. Learning on the fly is not the way to go. Put more time in to understanding cycles and what these hormones do and won't do and the real risks. It's not a sprint. It's a marathon that takes time and commitment.

You stole my line....

Ive been here ??? several years and I'm still learning daily. I also know how it's frustrating to not have your questions answered right away or directly but it's true, you are more apt to learn and remember if you are required to do some of the footwork instead of spoon feed. I HATE reading but I do more reading on this site than anywhere else.

Good choice on waiting until you get as much information as you can and the #1 rule is to NEVER start a cycle until you have 100% of what you need on hand.

[MuscleInk]

You stole my line.... Ive been here ??? several years and I'm still learning daily. I also know how it's frustrating to not have your questions answered right away or directly but it's true, you are more apt to learn and remember if you are required to do some of the footwork instead of spoon feed. I HATE reading but I do more reading on this site than anywhere else. Good choice on waiting until you get as much information as you can and the #1 rule is to NEVER start a cycle until you have 100% of what you need on hand.

I'll reference the original source next time and make sure you get royalties for using it.