Too short? Too Tall?

[meathead320]

so 5'4" 190 is small? and easy to attain?

Not saying it is easy to attain.

That is absurd.

My point is it is harder to maintain 300 pounds.

Also, if there is a 5'10" and a 6'4" bodybuilder, both of them may have a limit of say 240 pounds, before they don't feel good.

However, the 5'10" guy will look a lot thicker at 240, than the 6'4" guy will look, even if both guys have equal strength in the gym.

190 at 5'4" is not small. If that is a contest weight, he is a very thick dude.

It is just that for a guy 6'4" to be equally as thick, compared to his height, he would have to weigh 318 pounds. That is the same on the PI index. Cubed-root of 190, divided by 64”, then x 76” (new height), and cubed = new weight, in this case 318 pounds and change.
318 pounds however is a LOT more difficult to get to regardless of height, than 190 at 5'4".

That does not mean it is easy for someone to be 190, just harder to hold a contest weight of 318.

The heart muscle on the 6'4" guy is not much bigger (if any) than that of the 5'4" guy, but having to pump blood through 190 is a lot different than 318. If the heart does start getting bigger, then you have problems, and that is one of the things that happens at 300+, vs. 190'ish.

Height not being as much of a factor in terms of health.

so im ok at 6'2....wat would my weight need to be before cutting then at contest time....NPP show

To be the = of what shorter stats? Honestly, you do not need to be = thickness for your height, just do the best you can to be the biggest and most cut you can, work on lagging part, and see how you do. Do not aim for a certain weight, go by the miror. 225 on two 6'2" guys could look very different, depending on where it is on the frame, bone thickness, waist size too. Just do your best. Go by the miror, not the scale or the tape. Your bodybuilding.

[Columbus]

Not saying it is easy to attain.

That is absurd.

My point is it is harder to maintain 300 pounds.

Also, if there is a 5'10" and a 6'4" bodybuilder, both of them may have a limit of say 240 pounds, before they don't feel good.

However, the 5'10" guy will look a lot thicker at 240, than the 6'4" guy will look, even if both guys have equal strength in the gym.

190 at 5'4" is not small. If that is a contest weight, he is a very thick dude.

It is just that for a guy 6'4" to be equally as thick, compared to his height, he would have to weigh 318 pounds. That is the same on the PI index. Cubed-root of 190, divided by 64”, then x 76” (new height), and cubed = new weight, in this case 318 pounds and change.
318 pounds however is a LOT more difficult to get to regardless of height, than 190 at 5'4".

That does not mean it is easy for someone to be 190, just harder to hold a contest weight of 318.

The heart muscle on the 6'4" guy is not much bigger (if any) than that of the 5'4" guy, but having to pump blood through 190 is a lot different than 318. If the heart does start getting bigger, then you have problems, and that is one of the things that happens at 300+, vs. 190'ish.

Height not being as much of a factor in terms of health.



To be the = of what shorter stats? Honestly, you do not need to be = thickness for your height, just do the best you can to be the biggest and most cut you can, work on lagging part, and see how you do. Do not aim for a certain weight, go by the miror. 225 on two 6'2" guys could look very different, depending on where it is on the frame, bone thickness, waist size too. Just do your best. Go by the miror, not the scale or the tape. Your bodybuilding.

I agree but I do think there is an avg weight you can obtain or someone my height to really be safe..I mean I'm 185 now.....I know I need a minimum of 30 right? Esp. since Im under 10%

[soulstealer]

I agree but I do think there is an avg weight you can obtain or someone my height to really be safe..I mean I'm 185 now.....I know I need a minimum of 30 right? Esp. since Im under 10%

Holy crap man... Your 6'2" 185lbs....... I'm 6'2" 285 you must be a bean poll =P... I am higher body fat right now 16.5% but damn dude =P Eat something

[Columbus]

Holy crap man... Your 6'2" 185lbs....... I'm 6'2" 285 you must be a bean poll =P... I am higher body fat right now 16.5% but damn dude =P Eat something

EZ son....no need to be harsh...I'm much closer to a good weight than you are...esp. since I'm under 10%R I have tons of room to bulk, where you need to cut down.........I dont want this to get ugly, not like that, but all I need is about 20lbs of mass, where you could afford to lose 60ish....

I think most would agree its better to bulk when you are a low bw % as opposed to the other end...

[soulstealer]

EZ son....no need to be harsh...I'm much closer to a good weight than you are...esp. since I'm under 10%R I have tons of room to bulk, where you need to cut down.........I dont want this to get ugly, not like that, but all I need is about 20lbs of mass, where you could afford to lose 60ish....

I think most would agree its better to bulk when you are a low bw % as opposed to the other end...

Didn't mean any offense just saying you should eat something =P let yourself get up to 12-13% bodyfat while bulking..... and on a side note that was a while ago now I couldnt afford to loose 60lbs that would be alot of muscle I'd be in single digits around 250

[Columbus]

Didn't mean any offense just saying you should eat something =P let yourself get up to 12-13% bodyfat while bulking..... and on a side note that was a while ago now I couldnt afford to loose 60lbs that would be alot of muscle I'd be in single digits around 250

now why would I want to get to 12-13 if I can stay around 10 with the same effe3cts....if your train hard and eat clean, the gains will come and the bodyfat doesn/t......it's not about scarfing down obscene amoiunt of food....it doesnt need to be that way and should....I can gropw and stay lean!

[RuhlFreak55]

now why would I want to get to 12-13 if I can stay around 10 with the same effe3cts....if your train hard and eat clean, the gains will come and the bodyfat doesn/t......it's not about scarfing down obscene amoiunt of food....it doesnt need to be that way and should....I can gropw and stay lean!

that's a load of shit, you can't add as much mass staying at 10% as someone could adding a little more bodyfat inadvertently

[timtim]

Holy crap man... Your 6'2" 185lbs....... I'm 6'2" 285 you must be a bean poll =P... I am higher body fat right now 16.5% but damn dude =P Eat something

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=305774
click the link and then click the link on there.

i remembered this guy boasting about his weight and size in the past and then he posted pics.
these are pics of you soulstealer? why are you being harsh with this guy if these are pics of you?

[soulstealer]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=305774
click the link and then click the link on there.

i remembered this guy boasting about his weight and size in the past and then he posted pics.
these are pics of you soulstealer? why are you being harsh with this guy if these are pics of you?

So whats your point exactly? at that point I was eating like a savage those were my fat pics....if you look lower I dieted alot off.... right now I'm doing the same thing but I was calipered at a much lower bodyfat...I will be dieting in april

[timtim]

So whats your point exactly? at that point I was eating like a savage those were my fat pics....if you look lower I dieted alot off.... right now I'm doing the same thing but I was calipered at a much lower bodyfat...I will be dieting in april

been away for awhile. this is not a flame, you want clarification so here it is.

you don't look good at that weight and you dont look huge. you look fat. for you to tell someone 1 or 2 percent body fat away from being ripped nicely that he is skinny when you are 290 and 60 to 70 pounds away from being in solid shape is harsh and unnecessary. i saw your new pics and you are not 30or 40 pounds away from being lean, no way. if you were 220 to 230, i would say you would look great. but to put someone else down for being skinny and proclaiming how you are a massive weight when it looks sloppy and fat is ridiculous.

again, not a flame or looking for internet crap. that was my point.

[soulstealer]

been away for awhile. this is not a flame, you want clarification so here it is.

you don't look good at that weight and you dont look huge. you look fat. for you to tell someone 1 or 2 percent body fat away from being ripped nicely that he is skinny when you are 290 and 60 to 70 pounds away from being in solid shape is harsh and unnecessary. i saw your new pics and you are not 30or 40 pounds away from being lean, no way. if you were 220 to 230, i would say you would look great. but to put someone else down for being skinny and proclaiming how you are a massive weight when it looks sloppy and fat is ridiculous.

again, not a flame or looking for internet crap. that was my point.

So what your saying is according to my pics you deduce that I am 30%+ BF? as in if I were to hit 9% BF it would require me to loose 60-70lbs?