Quick question

[Phate]

stop deca 3 weeks before pct, test 2 weeks before pct
ex:
1-9: deca
1-10: test
13-16 pct

correct me if i'm wrong, but i remember that you were supposed to run test two weeks past deca, then start pct two weeks after last test shot(this is assuming that the test you are using is enth/cyp)

[Jackt23]

correct me if i'm wrong, but i remember that you were supposed to run test two weeks past deca, then start pct two weeks after last test shot(this is assuming that the test you are using is enth/cyp)

Correct me if IM wrong haha, but woudlnt you stop the deca 15 days before pct and cyp 12 days since their half-lives respectively are 15 and 12, aka last shot of deca, wait 3 days, and last shot of test? then youd come off at same point?

so basically, if you have your shots split each week, do your first shot of both on the last week, then your shot of cyp 3 days later, then pct 12 days from that?

[Phate]

Correct me if IM wrong haha, but woudlnt you stop the deca 15 days before pct and cyp 12 days since their half-lives respectively are 15 and 12, aka last shot of deca, wait 3 days, and last shot of test? then youd come off at same point?

so basically, if you have your shots split each week, do your first shot of both on the last week, then your shot of cyp 3 days later, then pct 12 days from that?

no, because you use the active life, which is the amount of time it takes for the compound to be absorbed, used, and expelled, for pct.

i believe one8nine is correct on this matter as deca's active life is 21 days and test enth's is 14 days, but i've always heard that deca should be stopped two weeks before test enth so that pct times line up, but it never made sense to me due to the aforementioned active lives.

[one8nine]

correct me if i'm wrong, but i remember that you were supposed to run test two weeks past deca, then start pct two weeks after last test shot(this is assuming that the test you are using is enth/cyp)

i guess it could go either way.
i know everyone parrots that way but i personally think 3 weeks before pct is fine
so if you really wanna be safe
1-8 deca
1-10 test e/c

but you were right phate, more than esters matter
for example, testosterone Decanoate, and Nandrolone Decanoate CANNOT be cut the same day. the metabolites left from the Nandrolone will still be in the users system after the exogenous testosterone, regardless of the fact both compounds have the same ester.

[Phate]

i guess it could go either way.
i know everyone parrots that way but i personally think 3 weeks before pct is fine
so if you really wanna be safe
1-8 deca
1-10 test e/c

but you were right phate, more than esters matter
for example, testosterone Decanoate, and Nandrolone Decanoate CANNOT be cut the same day. the metabolites left from the Nandrolone will still be in the users system after the exogenous testosterone, regardless of the fact both compounds have the same ester.

well i can't take credit for that, big helped me sort it out, alot of my knowledge i owe to him, lol

i was just confused cause i'm a chemistry/nuclear physics/biochemistry major so i'm so used to looking at data sheets and infering things, but i looked at the pct thing and i was like wtf?

but everyone's different, hell, i can take over 300mcg of clen without any sides and some people twice my size can't take half that

at the end of the day it's just what works best for the individual, lol

okay, i'll shut up now, lol

[one8nine]

well i can't take credit for that, big helped me sort it out, alot of my knowledge i owe to him, lol

i was just confused cause i'm a chemistry/nuclear physics/biochemistry major so i'm so used to looking at data sheets and infering things, but i looked at the pct thing and i was like wtf?

but everyone's different, hell, i can take over 300mcg of clen without any sides and some people twice my size can't take half that

at the end of the day it's just what works best for the individual, lol

okay, i'll shut up now, lol

long esters suck anyway.
but it doesnt hurt to start pct a little early....
i run tren a/test p/ masteron and i start pct the day after my last shot and go 4-6 weeks.
yeah i know the tren wont fully clear for a week fully, but i like to get a head start and it really doesnt do harm

[Phate]

long esters suck anyway.
but it doesnt hurt to start pct a little early....
i run tren a/test p/ masteron and i start pct the day after my last shot and go 4-6 weeks.
yeah i know the tren wont fully clear for a week fully, but i like to get a head start and it really doesnt do harm

go point, i'll go with that