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    I believe the principles of DC training are sound, should be used and applied to any style of training...

    1) Smash the logbook every workout
    2) Progressively increase weights (similar to 1)
    3) Consume alot of protein

    I have to say, I've read a lot of good things about DC, but I've also read the opposite too. With my current "one body part a week" program I am making great gains...so if it aint broke, don't fix it IMO. Also, I believe DC is only suited to people who juice. If natural guys undertake such a routine, they will well and truly overtrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamish&Andy View Post

    I have to say, I've read a lot of good things about DC, but I've also read the opposite too. With my current "one body part a week" program I am making great gains...so if it aint broke, don't fix it IMO. Also, I believe DC is only suited to people who juice. If natural guys undertake such a routine, they will well and truly overtrain.
    Not sure about DC causing over-training. Ronnie Rowland claims drug users and non-users should train the same in the Slingshot training article. He's a very smart man in my book. According to Ronnie DC would work just as well for naturals.

    Just saying.
    Last edited by VASCULAR VINCE; 10-14-2008 at 12:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VASCULAR VINCE View Post
    Not sure about DC causing over-training. Ronnie Rowland claims drug users and non-users should train the same in the Slingshot training article. He's a very smart man in my book. According to Ronnie DC would work just as well for naturals.

    Just saying.
    This is true! If DC, 5X5, German volume training, etc works for the drug enhanced, it will work equally well for non-steroid users- minus the extra gains the steroids provide.


    It's rarely about muscle recovery, it's about tendon, joint and CNS recovery. Meaning the joints, tendons and CNS of steroid users can't withstand more than a natural trainer regardless of how many steroids they take to enhance protein synthesis. Just because someone using steroids will experience faster muscle recovery does not mean they can get by with more volume and make maximal gains. The muscle tissue of natural bodybuilders also recovers at a fast rate but they still need to wait for CNS and joint recovery to take place prior to training again.

    Anabolic steroids are known for increasing the rate at which a muscle recovers by accelerating protein synthesis and up-regulating neuro-muscular pathways. This combination makes "steroid users" stronger and bigger at a quicker rate than natural trainers. The extra strength allows those who are on steroids to generate more intensity and push heavier work loads. The additional stress breaks down more muscle tissue, increases joint deterioration, and puts a tremendous strain on the central nervous system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    This is true! If DC, 5X5, German volume training, etc works for the drug enhanced, it will work equally well for non-steroid users- minus the extra gains the steroids provide.


    It's rarely about muscle recovery, it's about tendon, joint and CNS recovery. Meaning the joints, tendons and CNS of steroid users can't withstand more than a natural trainer regardless of how many steroids they take to enhance protein synthesis. Just because someone using steroids will experience faster muscle recovery does not mean they can get by with more volume and make maximal gains. The muscle tissue of natural bodybuilders also recovers at a fast rate but they still need to wait for CNS and joint recovery to take place prior to training again.

    Anabolic steroids are known for increasing the rate at which a muscle recovers by accelerating protein synthesis and up-regulating neuro-muscular pathways. This combination makes "steroid users" stronger and bigger at a quicker rate than natural trainers. The extra strength allows those who are on steroids to generate more intensity and push heavier work loads. The additional stress breaks down more muscle tissue, increases joint deterioration, and puts a tremendous strain on the central nervous system.
    Fantastic post Ronnie!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamish&Andy View Post
    I believe the principles of DC training are sound, should be used and applied to any style of training...

    1) Smash the logbook every workout
    2) Progressively increase weights (similar to 1)
    3) Consume alot of protein

    I have to say, I've read a lot of good things about DC, but I've also read the opposite too. With my current "one body part a week" program I am making great gains...so if it aint broke, don't fix it IMO. Also, I believe DC is only suited to people who juice. If natural guys undertake such a routine, they will well and truly overtrain.

    Disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    Disagree.
    Seconded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR'05 View Post
    Seconded.
    Any reason to back up your claim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamish&Andy View Post
    Any reason to back up your claim?
    You made the claim that its overtraining, care to back up your statement ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    You made the claim that its overtraining, care to back up your statement ?
    Seconded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamish&Andy View Post
    Any reason to back up your claim?
    Sure, I have a reason to back up my claim. That reason would probably be so people don't get scared away from one of the most efficient mass-building programs available, free of charge, over the internet.

    As for my personal experience, I've trained DC up to 8 weeks straight. I've followed Dante's protocol, as outlined at intensemuscle, for the entire 8 weeks.

    I have never touched AAS.

    I decidedly was not overtraining. Progress throughout my 8 week training blocks never stalled; I thoroughly recommend the program to anyone who knows how to train, eat, and supplement properly.
    Last edited by TR'05; 10-14-2008 at 08:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR'05 View Post
    Seconded.
    x3

    The concept of the program is that you are breaking the muscle down just enough so that particular muscle is recovered in time for it to be hammered again in the routine. Seems to me that (so far) the program allows more growth because you are breaking down, healing, and going again.

    But like I was trying to say above...if you don't put max effort the program feels like you have not done that much work as you leave the gym. You either bust ace and get something out of it or it leaves you discontent (which is your fault.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    Disagree.
    I'm with DSM.

    I am so impresed with the strenght gains, and the muscular development from someone that I know was not on aas. I have nothing but respect for DC. WOW!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    I'm with DSM.

    I am so impresed with the strenght gains, and the muscular development from someone that I know was not on aas. I have nothing but respect for DC. WOW!!!
    I just started it this week so only time will tell if it works for me or not. Looking forward to the gains. I did my first workout monday and damn, kicked my @$$ !

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