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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    i'm not using whey before cardio as much anymore, i switched to 16oz of egg whites, plus BCAAs, glutamine, caffeine, beta alanine and arginine, but either way should work well
    Kinda takes the point out of calling it empty stomach cardio if you put all that in your stomach.Why not try doing it for it's purpose "empty stomach cardio" for a week and then determine if it's for you or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dedic8ed1 View Post
    Kinda takes the point out of calling it empty stomach cardio if you put all that in your stomach.Why not try doing it for it's purpose "empty stomach cardio" for a week and then determine if it's for you or not?
    i have done it both ways, but i don't think "empty stomach cardio" is a very descritive term, a much better one would be "glycogen depleted cardio" or just cardio in a glycogen depleted state as that's more accurate

    my logic behind taking things before cardio is thus, the things i am taking do one of two things: they either help the body promote fat oxidation or create an amino acid rich state in the blood and fill the amino acid pool

    the reason for this is simple, if the amino acids are used for energy instead of fat, then that means that if they weren't there i would be using muscle instead, and i would prefer to burn through the aminos i ingest before cardio then the muscle i work so hard so put on

    a certain percentage of energy during glycogen depleted cardio is going to come from gluconeogenesis, and though we try to keep that percentage as low as possible, it's still there, so i would prefer to burn through aminos that i ingest instead of ones that i build

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    i have done it both ways, but i don't think "empty stomach cardio" is a very descritive term, a much better one would be "glycogen depleted cardio" or just cardio in a glycogen depleted state as that's more accurate

    my logic behind taking things before cardio is thus, the things i am taking do one of two things: they either help the body promote fat oxidation or create an amino acid rich state in the blood and fill the amino acid pool

    the reason for this is simple, if the amino acids are used for energy instead of fat, then that means that if they weren't there i would be using muscle instead, and i would prefer to burn through the aminos i ingest before cardio then the muscle i work so hard so put on

    a certain percentage of energy during glycogen depleted cardio is going to come from gluconeogenesis, and though we try to keep that percentage as low as possible, it's still there, so i would prefer to burn through aminos that i ingest instead of ones that i build

    does all this still apply when your on a cycle? i feel like even if you did cardio on an empty stomach when your on aas you wont loose muscle

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    Quote Originally Posted by laduem88 View Post
    does all this still apply when your on a cycle? i feel like even if you did cardio on an empty stomach when your on aas you wont loose muscle
    on cycle you wouldn't have to worry about it much

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