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    with the palumbo diet....it says not to have but one cheat meal a week...ron you say those with a fast metabolism can have upwards of two each week when doing slinghshot keto diet..how would this be beter than palumbo diet???wouldnt you get kicked out of ketosis ang gain weight??? just asking..not doubting you bro...

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    Quote Originally Posted by VASCULAR VINCE View Post
    with the palumbo diet....it says not to have but one cheat meal a week...ron you say those with a fast metabolism can have upwards of two each week when doing slinghshot keto diet..how would this be beter than palumbo diet???wouldnt you get kicked out of ketosis ang gain weight??? just asking..not doubting you bro...
    Here's what I want you to think about vince-why not just skip the paulmba once a week cheat meal altogether if it was not important to begin with? I can tell you from working with many bodybuilders throughout the years and being around close friends who competed that there is no one size fits all diet plan. The Slingshot Keto Diet allows room for adjustments to be made depending on how an individual responds and so does the Slingshot Training Routine.

    Plaumbos once a week cheat meal will not work for everyone regardless of how many fats they consume! Why? It's because their metabolism is so fast they will become severely glycogen depleted and enter a severely weakened state. I'm talking rubber like legs, insomnia, headaches, dehydration, irritability, light headedness, and no energy to train with-which defeats the whole purpose to begin with!!!

    There's a reason that some of the competitors on this board (for example:Narkissos) felt they lost muscle while trying a keto diet-"they did lose some muscle"! This is why they opt to use carb cycling instead of keto. Is there a way for them to do keto and keep muscle? Absolutely, but it will require 2 carb up days, etc! The only weight these type of individuals will gain back after a cheat meal will be water (not fat) and the water gained would be dispelled much faster than someone with a slow metabolism (for example: 1-2 days as opposed to 3-4 days).

    Most women and over weight men do fine with a once a week cheat meal because they deplete to a lesser degree, but someone with a fast metabolism can have cheat meals twice per week and be right back into ketosis the following morning.

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    I also wanted to throw soemthing else out there for everyone to think about- Some people do well carbing up two days in a row while in ketosis then staying off carbs for 5 days straight. I personally like this approach .

    The benefits are three-fold:

    1) I train legs on saturdays. As everyone knows, it's hard to get in a good leg workout without some carbs. I take in two carb meals late on friday to fill my muscle full of glycogen. I get a much better leg workout the followign day and have energy to move on to low intensity cardio afterwards. I'm usually fantasizing about the pancakes I'll be devouring afterwards since its now my second carb up day!

    2) Weekly weigh-ins are done on friday morning with more consistency since all the water will be removed from my system.

    3) My body will get use to carbing up 2 days in a row which works best for me when entering a competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    Here's what I want you to think about vince-why not just skip the paulmba once a week cheat meal altogether if it was not important to begin with? I can tell you from working with many bodybuilders throughout the years and being around close friends who competed that there is no one size fits all diet plan. The Slingshot Keto Diet allows room for adjustments to be made depending on how an individual responds and so does the Slingshot Training Routine.

    Plaumbos once a week cheat meal will not work for everyone regardless of how many fats they consume! Why? It's because their metabolism is so fast they will become severely glycogen depleted and enter a severely weakened state. I'm talking rubber like legs, insomnia, headaches, dehydration, irritability, light headedness, and no energy to train with-which defeats the whole purpose to begin with!!!

    There's a reason that some of the competitors on this board (for example:Narkissos) felt they lost muscle while trying a keto diet-"they did lose some muscle"! This is why they opt to use carb cycling instead of keto. Is there a way for them to do keto and keep muscle? Absolutely, but it will require 2 carb up days, etc! The only weight these type of individuals will gain back after a cheat meal will be water (not fat) and the water gained would be dispelled much faster than someone with a slow metabolism (for example: 1-2 days as opposed to 3-4 days).

    Most women and over weight men do fine with a once a week cheat meal because they deplete to a lesser degree, but someone with a fast metabolism can have cheat meals twice per week and be right back into ketosis the following morning.
    what you say does make perfectly good sense ronnir...really enjoying picking your brain...

    what your take on skip loading for a show?????is it a good thing or a bad? thing my man??

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    Quote Originally Posted by VASCULAR VINCE View Post
    what you say does make perfectly good sense ronnir...really enjoying picking your brain...

    what your take on skip loading for a show?????is it a good thing or a bad? thing my man??
    No problem!

    I did a serach on Skip loading and it came up under the name ken "skip" hill. It a similar same protocol taught by one of my friends, Joe Klemczewski where you carb up early and let water dissapate bfore the show. Skip Loading will work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    No problem!

    I did a serach on Skip loading and it came up under the name ken "skip" hill. It a similar same protocol taught by one of my friends, Joe Klemczewski where you carb up early and let water dissapate bfore the show. Skip Loading will work!
    alrighty then...thank you again ronnie...good to know...are you pre-carb loading or using a standard- carb 3 day carb-up for your show in 6 weeks????

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    Quote Originally Posted by VASCULAR VINCE View Post
    alrighty then...thank you again ronnie...good to know...are you pre-carb loading or using a standard- carb 3 day carb-up for your show in 6 weeks????
    I am only 3 weeks away from my show and I will do a 2 day standard carb up since I am in ketosis.

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