Help, lifting and MMA

[millionairemurph]

Look up all the fighters that have tested posative for anabolic steroids in the past three years you will see ALL of them LOST their fights. AAS does not help you in MMA at all , it only makes you look buff while you get beat up.
Lets mention a few:

Kevin Randleman
Hermes Franca
Chris Leben
Stephan Bonnar
Phil Baroni

Back in the Pride days Japan did not consider AAS as banned substance or performance enhancing in the fight game, thats why they didnt test fighters, maybe there was wisdom in it because the best fighters in pride at the time
(Noguiera/Fedor/Alex/Sergei for example) all had physiques that were very far from being juiced but they were phenominal fighters.

Wheras fighters who looked it like Coleman/Randleman were merely cans for anybody to beat on. They are not even top 20 in their divisions.

My point: AAS will not make you a better fighter and if you turn pro and get tested the consequence is not worth it, better off working on your skills bro.

to say that guys like Nog, Fedor and other were and or are not on juice because they arent cut is rediculous. Lots of guys dont eat or train properly.

Tim sylvia failed for winny, look at his body
fedors training partner failed for winny, look at him. He looked fat and soft
there are plenty of others.

Look at the section on this website where people post their cycle results. Lots of these guys are fat slobs, (no offence intended) and they in some cases are super juiced.

I am not trying to flame you here bro, I just hate the steriotype that if a guy is soft loking he is clean, and if a guy is ******, strong or fast he is juiced. Steriotyping people in this way puts aas in a bad light, puts guys who work hard in a bad light.

I do agree with you that juice wont help you fight better. I think that in many cases the guys whom i see who juice focs more on strength than technique. They miss sparring to lift. They want to have beach muscles instead of wanting to be a better fighter.

[thabeastmaster]

this sincerely is a good question/thread.....

i always wondered about Equi and its effects on athletic performance with regards to the wind endurance factor....i was under the impression that it would increase your red blood cells, possibly having a positive effect on oxygen transport....but ive never really pushed the question, hence why i have no answer...

i will say this though...from EXPERIENCE....when i was training BJJ HEAVILY... i mean 25+ hours a week TRAINING HARD.....and i added gear to my routine along with lifting, my technique went to SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTT........I found myself muscling moves and techniques and becoming very easy to read/predict/and defend against....one of my favorite training partners, who was always bigger and stronger than me(i was always the skinniest smallest guy at my BJJ school) commented on the change in my performance......first, he did say i was WAAAY stronger...but that was followed up by him letting me know i was no longer the sneaky, always planning 3-4 moves ahead, non stop attacking from different angles, technically sound grappler i used to be...instead he said it was like i just picked 1 submission and did whatever it took to get it....which is NOT the way i EVER wanted to be....

if you wanna be a fighter....then everything you do should revolve around fighting.....if you wanna be M & F cover model, then thats how you develop your workout program.....

fighting is too serious to give anything less than 100% to....

good luck with whatever you do and be sure to follow up with WARmachine and get referred to a good BJJ school...

[Philly Grappler]

Holy crap dude. 25 hours a week? Do you work there or own the school? I have trouble making 5 hours a week, although I have a full time job, 2 kids, etc etc.

[HIITB$]

Holy crap dude. 25 hours a week? Do you work there or own the school? I have trouble making 5 hours a week, although I have a full time job, 2 kids, etc etc.

Getting ready for a fight its easy to put in about as much gym time as work time (40 hours) at least in my experiences

[thabeastmaster]

Holy crap dude. 25 hours a week? Do you work there or own the school? I have trouble making 5 hours a week, although I have a full time job, 2 kids, etc etc.

lol....college loans....lol...had gone back to school and it was 15 credits and BJJ...lol...half the time i was skipping class at school to go train...it was a wonderful outlet for my OCD....lol

[KAEW44]

Look at the section on this website where people post their cycle results. Lots of these guys are fat slobs, (no offence intended) and they in some cases are super juiced.

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Man LOL i swear i have been wanting to make a comment on that for years but i always thought it was mean and discouraging to the memebers.LOL i just wont visit that forum section anymore LOL