Im sorry if I come off rude but I notice people in general wether its trying to build mucsle or do something else in there life. They set themselves these unrealistic goals. Like this one guy who just posted he wants to gain 60lbs of muscle. He wants to go from 170 to 230 or something. Now mabey Im the dumbass but he seems like a moron to me. You just started working out and you want to gain 60lbs of muscle "what are you thinking" (even with steroids thats seems crazy). I hear this shit all the time at my gym. How bout buddy tries to gain 10lbs then goes from there. 10lbs of muscle is alot, nevermind 60lbs. Then I see this time and time again people not reaching there goals and they look at themselves as failures.

Well I guess everyone has there own idea's of shit, to each there own.