19-NOR & Nolva, bad idea, but why?

[roid_rage]

Didnt I give a clear enough explanation?

Tamoxifen will help Deca or Tren induced gyno by down regulating both the ER and PgR in breast tissue. It will do nothing for PRL gyno though. That is where Prami or Caber come in.

Not really man, I thought Deca and Tren gyno were PRL (I guess thats stands for prolactin) induced gyno... Then you say tamoxifen will help Deca or Tren gyno? and then you say it wont do for PRL gyno.. im kind of lost here... I can understand Tren, if you are using Test, then the strogens levels are going to be pretty high, therefore you can get some "test induced gyno" (I dont know how to put it in english, but I think you'll get my point), but deca? would you please explain it a little bet better... thanx.

[Swifto]

Not really man, I thought Deca and Tren gyno were PRL (I guess thats stands for prolactin) induced gyno... Then you say tamoxifen will help Deca or Tren gyno? and then you say it wont do for PRL gyno.. im kind of lost here... I can understand Tren, if you are using Test, then the strogens levels are going to be pretty high, therefore you can get some "test induced gyno" (I dont know how to put it in english, but I think you'll get my point), but deca? would you please explain it a little bet better... thanx.

No, I stated Tamoxifen will down regulate the progesterone receptor in breast tissue. Some "guru's" state Tamoxifen will up regulate the progesterone receptor and cause or lead to gyno. By either worsening estrogenic gyno or by itself. They, therfore, assume Tamoxifen CANT be used with Deca or Tren, but this is false.

I have never seen a case of gyno solely caused by PgR. It seems impossible as the PgR is synthesized by the ER (Estrogen Receptor).

Deca and Tren will both elevate PRL (Prolactin) levels (although, again debatable). Therfore, for PRL related sides, such as loss of labido, gyno and lactation (although not only from PRL), Caber, Prami or Dostinex need to be used.

If that doesnt explain it nothing will. And...To be honest, I'm tired of explaining things over and over just for YOUR benifit, such as my HCG thread.