Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
No, I stated Tamoxifen will down regulate the progesterone receptor in breast tissue. Some "guru's" state Tamoxifen will up regulate the progesterone receptor and cause or lead to gyno. By either worsening estrogenic gyno or by itself. They, therfore, assume Tamoxifen CANT be used with Deca or Tren, but this is false.

I have never seen a case of gyno solely caused by PgR. It seems impossible as the PgR is synthesized by the ER (Estrogen Receptor).

Deca and Tren will both elevate PRL (Prolactin) levels (although, again debatable). Therfore, for PRL related sides, such as loss of labido, gyno and lactation (although not only from PRL), Caber, Prami or Dostinex need to be used.

If that doesnt explain it nothing will. And...To be honest, I'm tired of explaining things over and over just for YOUR benifit, such as my HCG thread.
for my benefit??? what the heck man? ok, you are a vet and a mod, but is this a discussion forum or is this just a place where we have to read and say ohh man, what ever you say is right (im not saying is wrong, youre probably right)... Ive never been disrespectful towards you, I just dont like to eat anything without knowing what the heck im eating, sorry if you like ppl to say, hey switfo, youre the sh**! No bro, Im here to discuss things I find interesting, if you dont want to answer, then dont do it, but there is no reason to get all agressive towards me, just because Im trying to get into a coneversation with you...

"Tamoxifen will help Deca or Tren induced gyno by down regulating both the ER and PgR in breast tissue. It will do nothing for PRL gyno though. That is where Prami or Caber come in."

My question was simple, how can you get gyno from deca if its not from prolactin related issues? since you said that tamoxigen will help deca or tren (im assuming every 19 nor compound) gyno, theres got to be another reason to get gyno than is not because of the rise of the prolactin levels (we are talking about 19 nor compounds)

I hope this doesnt get me ban or anything...