Civil Right-"Freedom Of Assembly"

[BgMc31]

I find it amazing that no major news station covered this rally.People exercising of there "freedom of assembly" rights.I guess they are not to keen on Obama's political views and plans.There was an estimated 1.2 million people, that congregated and then marched on the White House.I know that Obama is BgMc's boy and all, but, you have to ask yourself why this administration is forcing people to react in such a fashion. It is not a coincidence.You best buy a firearm now before there banned. That way you can defend yourself when the civil war starts, and "WE The People" take back country from this oppressive government!

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T




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VMXz6xGeqc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sjvc6baor8

CNN covered it. ABC News covered it, NBC News covered it. I don't know about CBS but I know Fox News covered it as well. I don't know what mainstream media you are referring to.

Handguns aren't going to be banned T. Calm down. And this thought of civil war is only being talked about by those who fear their losing THEIR privilege. If anyone is trying to start a civil war is those people who write signs like "Bury Obama next to Hitler". PLEASE!!! There is absolutely no correlation between the madman and our current president. But in order to instill fear in people, that is what you do, you compare someone with dissimilar ideas with the most vile people imaginable and the sheep will follow. And by 'you', I don't mean you in particular T, I mean a collective 'you'.

[thegodfather]

CNN covered it. ABC News covered it, NBC News covered it. I don't know about CBS but I know Fox News covered it as well. I don't know what mainstream media you are referring to.

Handguns aren't going to be banned T. Calm down. And this thought of civil war is only being talked about by those who fear their losing THEIR privilege. If anyone is trying to start a civil war is those people who write signs like "Bury Obama next to Hitler". PLEASE!!! There is absolutely no correlation between the madman and our current president. But in order to instill fear in people, that is what you do, you compare someone with dissimilar ideas with the most vile people imaginable and the sheep will follow. And by 'you', I don't mean you in particular T, I mean a collective 'you'.

What privilege?


Kind of the same strategy as calling anyone who doesn't agree with one of Obama's policies an Uncle Tom Racist Oppressing Scumbag?

[countrybhoy]

i feel for you right now . if AMERICANS can take back thier own country there is hope for the rest of us .there is to much .pc madness in this world now .we open our doors to people to give them a better life . what thanks do we get? they try and turn our countries into the one the say they are fleeing .you dont like they way we live fvck off you came here we didnt ask you to and we have a right to defend ourselves against people that what to change our ways of life . . nationalism does not = nazi . it = pride in our own culture.



( ps im pissed ) but these are still my views

[BgMc31]

i feel for you right now . if AMERICANS can take back thier own country there is hope for the rest of us .there is to much .pc madness in this world now .we open our doors to people to give them a better life . what thanks do we get? they try and turn our countries into the one the say they are fleeing .you dont like they way we live fvck off you came here we didnt ask you to and we have a right to defend ourselves against people that what to change our ways of life . . nationalism does not = nazi . it = pride in our own culture.



( ps im pissed ) but these are still my views

Which "AMERICANS" should take back their country, Countryboy?

[TITANIUM]

CNN covered it. ABC News covered it, NBC News covered it. I don't know about CBS but I know Fox News covered it as well. I don't know what mainstream media you are referring to.

Yes the did cover it, but it was minimal.I should have made that more clear and not a slanted view.
To understand the full gravity of the situation, it would have had to be shown in it's full , non edited form. Which, they will not do.Look at the million mom march and that got coverage for weeks. This guy, Obama, Is tearing away the fabric of this country.And People can't say that I'm paranoid.Or suffer from PTS from the war.I just pay attention to what I see and read.I know that we have found common ground, BgMc, and we can debate and talk civilly now. But , you cant deny that Obama is not doing well in the popularity column as he was in the primaries.I don't trust him, or any other politician running for that office.Should be a pre-requisite that the commander and chief, that holds that position, to have a minimum of 4 years in the military.After all, he is commander and chief.

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T

Handguns aren't going to be banned T. Calm down. And this thought of civil war is only being talked about by those who fear their losing THEIR privilege. If anyone is trying to start a civil war is those people who write signs like "Bury Obama next to Hitler". PLEASE!!! There is absolutely no correlation between the madman and our current president. But in order to instill fear in people, that is what you do, you compare someone with dissimilar ideas with the most vile people imaginable and the sheep will follow. And by 'you', I don't mean you in particular T, I mean a collective 'you'.

The way it will be done BgMc is through the UN small arms treaty. So, I'm not Really going out of the text of reality in saying this.It's been the plan of the UN to do this for some time now.Busch, (POS), wouldn't entertain the idea of sining such legislation do to the fact that he couldn't vote it trough the Senate.But, Obama has the votes my friend.So never say never.It's not a safe view of seeing/planning things to come.

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T

What privilege?

Correct, it's not a privilege, it's a god given right.
Period.No Grey area on that.

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T


Kind of the same strategy as calling anyone who doesn't agree with one of Obama's policies an Uncle Tom Racist Oppressing Scumbag?

There is a strategy going on here. There is definitely a racist component taking place here.I think if you pretend that Obama is white, and look at it in prospective, Every one would not agree with his agenda.By taking color out of the equation, people can see more clearly, I think.

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T

i feel for you right now . if AMERICANS can take back their own country there is hope for the rest of us .there is to much .pc madness in this world now .we open our doors to people to give them a better life . what thanks do we get? they try and turn our countries into the one the say they are fleeing .you dint like they way we live fvck off you came here we didn't ask you to and we have a right to defend ourselves against people that what to change our ways of life . . nationalism does not = Nazi . it = pride in our own culture.

I here what your saying.But they are here to stay until the government figures out that the need to close the boarders and deport these illegal immigrants.This is being looked at from a military standpoint, (by myself).

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T

( ps im pissed ) but these are still my views

Touchy, touchy, Godfather!! No one was implying racism, but you're quick to point it out. Kinda Freudian don't you think?

Or do you mean to imply that everyone who supports Obama is a lazy, good for nothing, looking for government handouts?

Which "AMERICANS" should take back their country, Countryboy?

I think Country boy is talking about legal Americans that work and contribute to society.That would be whites, blacks, Colombians, or what ever.I don't think it was made to sound like a racially biased remark.I myself , don't see color, religious creed, or any other stupid racist crap that floats around the forum sometimes.

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T

[BgMc31]

What privilege?


Kind of the same strategy as calling anyone who doesn't agree with one of Obama's policies an Uncle Tom Racist Oppressing Scumbag?

Touchy, touchy, Godfather!! No one was implying racism, but you're quick to point it out. Kinda Freudian don't you think?

Or do you mean to imply that everyone who supports Obama is a lazy, good for nothin, looking for goverment handouts?

[MuscleScience]

Touchy, touchy, Godfather!! No one was implying racism, but you're quick to point it out. Kinda Freudian don't you think?

Or do you mean to imply that everyone who supports Obama is a lazy, good for nothin, looking for goverment handouts?

Pretty much everyone that Liberal America feels bad for.

[BgMc31]

We all came from the same place. In 2 or three more generations, most black/whites will be integrated into society as anew. Part of this bullshit racial dilemma that I see is further promulgated by ignorance and stupidity around the world. but more so in this country. My daughter is 16-1/2 and dates blacks. As long as who ever she dates, as long as she's happy, then that's where it ends.Interesting turn of advents, to say the least. Yes, Obama has a blessing being the first black president, no doubt a history in the making. But, in the same token, everyone is watching every step this guy is making. And, add to the fact that he is walking into a political nightmare and a recession, only makes this situation more vexing for him.It is part of the new world we must adapt to. The fact that , if obama was a white candidate and ran the same campaign model, he would have never even made it to the primary.It is what it is. Now, from what I have seen, as a whole, is that some blacks are very biased and racist towards whites.This is not to say that whites are any better at this problem than blacks. I was a Reagan man only due to the fact he was an excellent strategist at fighting a war. and I served under him in the eighties. I think he did some shit wrong, but we can find fault with anybody.I guess in a thousand more years, we can be all mixed up as a population,(skin color). then we can concertrate on the really problems we need to fix and address them without this racist bullshit that people just can't get buy.It's like a bunch of children in a playground pointing fingers at each other saying, "your it", or something.I don't like obama for what he is trying to do,that's it. I didn't like Busch either. Hated the Clinton administration also. So, You can see that I make my judgements on who the candidate is as a person and the decisions he makes.

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T

Hey T, I have an 18yr old daughter who dates everything from Blacks to Asians and everything in between. But of course, having such a racially diverse family as I do, I have no choice but to accept. But because of the racially diverse background of my family, I know there are trials and tribulations that an racially and ethnically mixed family goes through. I know Obama is in the position he's in because of the huge ground swell of support he got from minorities. But I also know and have heard of the extreme racist rhetoric from large swaths of the opposition. You see what you see and I see what I see, neither is wrong but we pay attention to only what we want to pay attention to.

My father spent 30yrs in the Army and served during the Reagan years, and I can tell you that he and most of his black servicemen friends weren't Reagan supporters and if you recall the amount of black enlistments during the Reagan years was higher than any other time. Blacks enlisted not because of their support for Reagan but because the economic situation for blacks during the Reagan years were dier and blacks saw the military as their only way out.

Again, T, I know guys like you, Kratos, and Musclescience aren't racist, but you cannot deny that many on this forum and elsewhere who are opposed to Obama, do so mainly because of the color of his skin.

BTW, I was a huge Clinton fan (and still am) and most blacks will tell you that during that time, black Americans really felt things were looking up.

Pretty much everyone that Liberal America feels bad for.

That's a sad stereotype MuscleScience. The fact that the man garnered almost 66% of the vote and won by a margin larger than any other modern president since Reagan should show you that he stands for more than what you think.

[TITANIUM]

Hey T, I have an 18yr old daughter who dates everything from Blacks to Asians and everything in between. But of course, having such a racially diverse family as I do, I have no choice but to accept. But because of the racially diverse background of my family, I know there are trials and tribulations that an racially and ethnically mixed family goes through. I know Obama is in the position he's in because of the huge ground swell of support he got from minorities. But I also know and have heard of the extreme racist rhetoric from large swaths of the opposition. You see what you see and I see what I see, neither is wrong but we pay attention to only what we want to pay attention to.

My father spent 30yrs in the Army and served during the Reagan years, and I can tell you that he and most of his black servicemen friends weren't Reagan supporters and if you recall the amount of black enlistments during the Reagan years was higher than any other time. Blacks enlisted not because of their support for Reagan but because the economic situation for blacks during the Reagan years were dier and blacks saw the military as their only way out.

Again, T, I know guys like you, Kratos, and Musclescience aren't racist, but you cannot deny that many on this forum and elsewhere who are opposed to Obama, do so mainly because of the color of his skin.

BTW, I was a huge Clinton fan (and still am) and most blacks will tell you that during that time, black Americans really felt things were looking up.



That's a sad stereotype MuscleScience. The fact that the man garnered almost 66% of the vote and won by a margin larger than any other modern president since Reagan should show you that he stands for more than what you think.

I'm not a racist, obviously.I think you can see that by now.Obama just stepped in at bad economic times.So he is going to get more crap than normally incurred, (even if he was white). If he was put in office, say in the early 90's, it wouldn't be as negativley noticed.And he is very leftist aggressive by nature.I don't think that the US is ready for such a change yet, if at all. As far as my daughter goes, If she is happy, then that makes me happy.I don't see color.But until we can get through the color ignorance in this country, it will only compound problems for us all.

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T

[MuscleScience]

Hey T, I have an 18yr old daughter who dates everything from Blacks to Asians and everything in between. But of course, having such a racially diverse family as I do, I have no choice but to accept. But because of the racially diverse background of my family, I know there are trials and tribulations that an racially and ethnically mixed family goes through. I know Obama is in the position he's in because of the huge ground swell of support he got from minorities. But I also know and have heard of the extreme racist rhetoric from large swaths of the opposition. You see what you see and I see what I see, neither is wrong but we pay attention to only what we want to pay attention to.

My father spent 30yrs in the Army and served during the Reagan years, and I can tell you that he and most of his black servicemen friends weren't Reagan supporters and if you recall the amount of black enlistments during the Reagan years was higher than any other time. Blacks enlisted not because of their support for Reagan but because the economic situation for blacks during the Reagan years were dier and blacks saw the military as their only way out.

Again, T, I know guys like you, Kratos, and Musclescience aren't racist, but you cannot deny that many on this forum and elsewhere who are opposed to Obama, do so mainly because of the color of his skin.

BTW, I was a huge Clinton fan (and still am) and most blacks will tell you that during that time, black Americans really felt things were looking up.



That's a sad stereotype MuscleScience. The fact that the man garnered almost 66% of the vote and won by a margin larger than any other modern president since Reagan should show you that he stands for more than what you think.

I dont know what you mean. I wasnt talking about Obama. I was talking about all of Liberal America. Most of my generation voted for him simple because he wasnt a 80 year old man.

Also you can say the reverse for blacks voting for obama. There was a very large percentage that voted for Obama based on race. I wont deny that some whites, hispanics, asians ect. oppose Obama because he is half black. I still say that white people are the most tolerant people in the world. Sure there are still racist, but white european culture has welcomed almost every race and creed into modern society. I couldnt walk down the streets of Tehran, or Nairobi or Tokyo without getting jailed or attacked or beheaded or denied serves in Tokyo. Just my 2 cynical cents.

[BgMc31]

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[BgMc31]

I dont know what you mean. I wasnt talking about Obama. I was talking about all of Liberal America. Most of my generation voted for him simple because he wasnt a 80 year old man.

Also you can say the reverse for blacks voting for obama. There was a very large percentage that voted for Obama based on race. I wont deny that some whites, hispanics, asians ect. oppose Obama because he is half black. I still say that white people are the most tolerant people in the world. Sure there are still racist, but white european culture has welcomed almost every race and creed into modern society. I couldnt walk down the streets of Tehran, or Nairobi or Tokyo without getting jailed or attacked or beheaded or denied serves in Tokyo. Just my 2 cynical cents.

I see your point Musclescience, but I disagree with your assessment of 'most of my generation'. Even with every single black person of voting age in america voting for Obama, it still pails in comparison to the group of whites who oppose Obama because of his race (upwards of 10% of all voting age whites) according to some statistics.

I also see your point about white Europeans. But like you I can't walk the streets of Tehran, Nairobi, or Tokyo but I also can't walk the streets of some places in Russia, Poland, Italy, Spain, Argentina, Brazil, etc. all because the color of my skin.

Racism exists, there's no denying that, but you cannot deny that it also has some place in politics. Just look at some of the rhetoric during some of these rallies. It's right there in the open.

Here's my overall beef Musclescience, many conservatives act like our best days are behind us. But for Blacks and other minorities, this is the best time in history for us. Sure the unemployment rate is hovering around 10% and around 20% for blacks. But for once we are seeing a level playing field (or as close to level as we've ever seen it) and we have Obama to thank for that. You bring up the issue of blacks voting for Obama, did you realize that Obama garnered more white votes than any other Democratic presidential candidate since JFK? It seems to me that SOME whites are fearful that their "supposed" sense of entitlement has come to an end. But it simply isn't true. The man isn't hitler or the anti-christ and I don't see him destroying our constitution. Bush did more against the constitution than Obama has ever proposed. If people would simply LISTEN to the man and not to this right wing nut jobs then they would see that, even though he is very liberal, he believes in the constitution. Look, I don't agree with everything that Obama does (I'm major pissed about the continuation of the Patriot Act shit), but I agree with many of his policies, much more than any republican candidate.

I want this country to succeed, I'm American and damned proud to be one. But the anger and rhetoric expoused today against this man is simply unfounded. People need to think for themselves and maybe we can have rational dialogue about this and I think we really do need a rational dialogue about race, but there appears to be blatant ignorance on both sides.

[kickinit]

CNN covered it. ABC News covered it, NBC News covered it. I don't know about CBS but I know Fox News covered it as well. I don't know what mainstream media you are referring to.

Handguns aren't going to be banned T. Calm down. And this thought of civil war is only being talked about by those who fear their losing THEIR privilege. If anyone is trying to start a civil war is those people who write signs like "Bury Obama next to Hitler". PLEASE!!! There is absolutely no correlation between the madman and our current president. But in order to instill fear in people, that is what you do, you compare someone with dissimilar ideas with the most vile people imaginable and the sheep will follow. And by 'you', I don't mean you in particular T, I mean a collective 'you'.

Your not serious are you? Hilter and Obama have several things in common, the way THEY it should be, the WAY WE should be, WHAT WE shall provide. We have this thing Hilter didn't have a "CONSTITUTION: That is our book of rules, is not the job or the RIGHT of the president to change or make up his own, but your buddy Obama sure is trying.