Who believes in evolution?

[MuscleScience]

See and that is what bothers me. We can't figure something out now, so we'll just put it down to God in the mean time..

If you can come up with a better answer, then by all means.

[Flagg]

If you can come up with a better answer, then by all means.

Im surprised at you mate, that is such an ignorant answer. You would rather be ignorant than enlightened? I can't find my car keys right now. I better put that down to God.

[DSM4Life]

Im surprised at you mate, that is such an ignorant answer. You would rather be ignorant than enlightened? I can't find my car keys right now. I better put that down to God.

Pray to St. Anthony, he helps you find things.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Pray to St. Anthony, he helps you find things.

LOL, I went to a private middle school, and thats all I remember. Before we did anything, we prayed to some saint haha. There is like a million of them, all for different reasons, from helping me not choke on my lunch to keeping the roads safe for field trips

[MuscleScience]

Im surprised at you mate, that is such an ignorant answer. You would rather be ignorant than enlightened? I can't find my car keys right now. I better put that down to God.

You can take any argument I make that I feel stronger that there is a god or supreme maker since I have became more educated to the life sciences and twist it by saying that because I dont know now that I simple chalk it up to God. I make up an excuse because I dont know, as you did in your previous post. So the only counter argument is for you to give me a plausible answer to the alternative. To me that was not ignorant, how can I argue with someone that is not impartial. That would be ignorant.

And I am surprised that you would call me ignorant.

[Flagg]

You can take any argument I make that I feel stronger that there is a god or supreme maker since I have became more educated to the life sciences and twist it by saying that because I dont know now that I simple chalk it up to God. I make up an excuse because I dont know, as you did in your previous post. So the only counter argument is for you to give me a plausible answer to the alternative. To me that was not ignorant, how can I argue with someone that is not impartial. That would be ignorant.

And I am surprised that you would call me ignorant.

I am surprised that someone who has studied science would simply chalk the unknown down to "God works in mysterious ways".

Human pioneering will forever educate us and show us what lies behind the curtain.

And im one of the most unbias people I know, except when it comes to the subject of religion. I've never seen Gods love once in the things men do to each other. Its barbaric and penny pinching.

[MuscleScience]

I am surprised that someone who has studied science would simply chalk the unknown down to "God works in mysterious ways".

Human pioneering will forever educate us and show us what lies behind the curtain.

And im one of the most unbias people I know, except when it comes to the subject of religion. I've never seen Gods love once in the things men do to each other. Its barbaric and penny pinching.

Thats the thing, I dont.....

LOL, I have spent countless hours pondering this subject. The machinery of life is so intelligently designed it is almost impossible to look at how even a single simple cell organism can survive, replicate, adapt..ect and not think to yourself that there was intelligence at work. I am not saying that there is a God or one God. There are things in the Universe that defy science and religion alike.

Do I think the Theory of Evolution is a good and valid description for how life changes, Yes. Do I think it can explain how life began completely, not entirely. I know as well as anyone that genetically there is evidence that there was one common ancestor to all life on earth. I sure has hell dont believe life on Earth started 10,000 years ago. I do not think creationism should be taught in school, my own belief on and intelligent design I based off my own personal revelations.

I am about as science minded as anyone out there. Because of that I keep an open mind about the alternative to human science and technology. I dont think there is a valid argument out there to discount completely the existence of a God or Supreme Being.

[rockinred]

I am surprised that someone who has studied science would simply chalk the unknown down to "God works in mysterious ways".

Human pioneering will forever educate us and show us what lies behind the curtain.

And im one of the most unbias people I know, except when it comes to the subject of religion. I've never seen Gods love once in the things men do to each other. Its barbaric and penny pinching.

Flagg,

You called MS ignorant because he stated he believes in an intelligent design or however you want to put it. When you think about it and think objectively, your statement is more ignorant because you automatically believe that someone who studies science automatically equates to not believing in God or a God.

I think you are from the UK, but some of the US's greatest scientists throughout history believed in a God. Such as Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison, etc.. You will also find that many who start to study the complexity of science convert to that belief. As many that do believe there is equally as many that don't believe. It is never ending.

I find it humorous that someone can believe that aliens planted humans as some project, yet think that a belief in a God is silly.

Either way Flagg, we have been down this road before and I think you are a pretty intelligent man, I just think that we will disagree on this subject.

[Flagg]

Flagg,

You called MS ignorant because he stated he believes in an intelligent design or however you want to put it. When you think about it and think objectively, your statement is more ignorant because you automatically believe that someone who studies science automatically equates to not believing in God or a God.

I think you are from the UK, but some of the US's greatest scientists throughout history believed in a God. Such as Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison, etc.. You will also find that many who start to study the complexity of science convert to that belief. As many that do believe there is equally as many that don't believe. It is never ending.

I find it humorous that someone can believe that aliens planted humans as some project, yet think that a belief in a God is silly.

Either way Flagg, we have been down this road before and I think you are a pretty intelligent man, I just think that we will disagree on this subject.

Yeah you're right, I was probably a little harsh to call MS ignorant and I appologise to MS about that. Religion I have to admit gets my blood boiling from time to time and I didn't take the time to fully read into what he said about Intelligent Design, which of course is feasible, so again I appologise to MS for not reading!

And you're right, this is a debate without ending. Maybe in a thousand years time they'd be answers, but none of us will be here then so I guess we'll have to content ourselves on what we consider right and wrong.

I would argue that due to the nature of the times, people were more religious then...Darwin, even though he was considered a heretic, believed in a Christian version of God.

Haha, its not me that personally believes in Alien Intervention, it was a nod towards what BJJ believes in.

[MuscleScience]

Yeah you're right, I was probably a little harsh to call MS ignorant and I appologise to MS about that. Religion I have to admit gets my blood boiling from time to time and I didn't take the time to fully read into what he said about Intelligent Design, which of course is feasible, so again I appologise to MS for not reading!

And you're right, this is a debate without ending. Maybe in a thousand years time they'd be answers, but none of us will be here then so I guess we'll have to content ourselves on what we consider right and wrong.

I would argue that due to the nature of the times, people were more religious then...Darwin, even though he was considered a heretic, believed in a Christian version of God.

Haha, its not me that personally believes in Alien Intervention, it was a nod towards what BJJ believes in.

Its all good Flagg, I didnt take offense. I can tell your passionate...

[lovbyts]

Yeah you're right, I was probably a little harsh to call MS ignorant and I appologise to MS about that. Religion I have to admit gets my blood boiling from time to time and I didn't take the time to fully read into what he said about Intelligent Design, which of course is feasible, so again I appologise to MS for not reading!

And you're right, this is a debate without ending. Maybe in a thousand years time they'd be answers, but none of us will be here then so I guess we'll have to content ourselves on what we consider right and wrong.

I would argue that due to the nature of the times, people were more religious then...Darwin, even though he was considered a heretic, believed in a Christian version of God.

Haha, its not me that personally believes in Alien Intervention, it was a nod towards what BJJ believes in.

How is that any more crazy that the other idea and also what about people like me who believe in Alien intervention, Evolution/adaptation and God all at the same time?

I think there is room for all of it. Who says God only created us? I love getting into that argument with my mom (very religious) Every time she say NO he only created us because he son only died for our sins I say Ohh so you are putting limitations on what God can do? hehehehehe