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    Quote Originally Posted by welcometopiyush View Post
    hi ron

    just one more query.
    Does taking steroids just once or twice a year with modrate dosages and proper pct will have any kind of ill health effects in the long run. no!thanks
    above

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    above
    Hi Ronnie,

    that is interessting. you really think that there is no harm at all for the body if you do for example one 20 weeks slingshot cycle per year.

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    [QUOTE=Maronn;5561050]Hi Ronnie,

    that is interessting. you really think that there is no harm at all for the body if you do for example one 20 weeks slingshot cycle per year. No I do not given your blood pressure and hemocrit levels stay in check. In fact, I am of the opinion that some test and Growth Hormone can expand your lifespan and enhance quality of life.[/QUOTE]above

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    Ronnie,

    In your experience, could a joint support supplement such as cissus work for the joint pain that occurs on a test-winny cycle? (I know you recommend deca, but let's say someone wants to avoid 19-nors)

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    I also had a question for you in this thread, I just realised afterwards that you were probably just answering questions here...

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...raining-System

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    Quote Originally Posted by bernimx View Post
    i also had a question for you in this thread, i just realised afterwards that you were probably just answering questions here...

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...raining-system
    yes, i am asking everyone to keep questions to this thread only so i can keep up..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    yes, i am asking everyone to keep questions to this thread only so i can keep up..
    Ok here was my question:

    The best way to overcome sticking points is by changing your routine with a deload.
    Do you mean to change it for the two week duration and then come back to your old routine, or to change during the deload, but keep the new routine for the next reload too?

    It takes 6-8 weeks for full-adaptation to occur when using anabolics. Full-adaptation is what you want so go with 8 weeks! When you start to feel over-trained during a blast or your joints begin to ache, simply reduce the total work sets by deloading and keep blasting. A longer reload gives the body more time to adjust and you will hold onto the muscle better! LET'S RECAP-THERE IS NO SET LIMIT ON HOW LONG YOU CAN BLAST. THE KEY IS TO DELOAD AND RELOAD THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE BLAST AND THEN DO A 1-2 WEEK PRIME WHEN TOTAL BURN OUT OR A NAGGING INJURY OCCURS.

    If one of your trainees would still makes gain at week 8, could you keep him going for one or two more weeks (9-10 totals), or do you still deload at week 8?

    One more question.

    During a 2 week deload, what is a good strategy to follow? I'm finishing my 7th reload week, and feel like I am slowly getting overtrained, which is good. Main reason is that I kept adding a set here and there as the weeks passed by so that when I would deload, my body would have a reason to over-compensate (if that makes sense). On my reload, I basically followed an UPPER/LOWER split, 3-4 days a week.

    For my deload coming soon, I was thinking of doing it in two different ways.. Either:
    1 - Train only M-W-F, reduce volume and train mainly my big lifts for low reps (1-5) to recover AND increase strength (ex: bench press for 3x3, followed by some light laterals raises and push-downs, you get it..)
    2 - Train only M-W-F, slightly reduce volume, but basically go there and hit only isolation exercises for high reps, keeping 2 reps shy of failure(pec-dec instead of bench press, etc..), only aiming for a good pump, keeping the session short.
    3 - Begin with a new training (keeping what has worked well though), but only hitting 50% of the volume for the first two weeks.

    Advice? (Thanks Ronnie)

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    my damn elbow is hurting...like hell while doing any overhead ext for tris...anything else that i can use to nail the long head of my tris...??????i figure if anyone knew.. it would be you!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bernimx View Post
    ok here was my question:

    the best way to overcome sticking points is by changing your routine with a deload.
    do you mean to change it for the two week duration and then come back to your old routine, or to change during the deload, but keep the new routine for the next reload too?

    it takes 6-8 weeks for full-adaptation to occur when using anabolics. Full-adaptation is what you want so go with 8 weeks! When you start to feel over-trained during a blast or your joints begin to ache, simply reduce the total work sets by deloading and keep blasting. A longer reload gives the body more time to adjust and you will hold onto the muscle better! Let's recap-there is no set limit on how long you can blast. The key is to deload and reload throughout the entire blast and then do a 1-2 week prime when total burn out or a nagging injury occurs.

    if one of your trainees would still makes gain at week 8, could you keep him going for one or two more weeks (9-10 totals), or do you still deload at week 8? we still go ahead and deload to prevent total burnout in the future and this helps greatly in preventing nagging injuries that will set you back later on down the road. Deloading can be a hard thing to do sometimes mentally but it really helps your ability to come back and be hungry for training! when cutting no deload is required.
    One more question.

    During a 2 week deload, what is a good strategy to follow? I'm finishing my 7th reload week, and feel like i am slowly getting overtrained, which is good. sounds about right..main reason is that i kept adding a set here and there as the weeks passed by so that when i would deload, my body would have a reason to over-compensate (if that makes sense). On my reload, i basically followed an upper/lower split, 3-4 days a week.

    For my deload coming soon, i was thinking of doing it in two different ways.. Either:
    1 - train only m-w-f, reduce volume and train mainly my big lifts for low reps (1-5) to recover and increase strength (ex: Bench press for 3x3, followed by some light laterals raises and push-downs, you get it..)
    2 - train only m-w-f, slightly reduce volume, but basically go there and hit only isolation exercises for high reps, keeping 2 reps shy of failure(pec-dec instead of bench press, etc..), only aiming for a good pump, keeping the session short.
    3 - begin with a new training (keeping what has worked well though), but only hitting 50% of the volume for the first two weeks.

    Advice? keep training like you have been (3 days per week) but change some exercises if desired to prevent over-use. For example, instead of doing incline barbbell presses go use a machine or dumbells. Also, do higher reps only and just reduce volume. No low reps just high reps! (thanks ronnie)
    above

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    Quote Originally Posted by bernimx View Post
    ok here was my question:

    the best way to overcome sticking points is by changing your routine with a deload.
    do you mean to change it for the two week duration and then come back to your old routine, yes, that's the secret! or to change during the deload, but keep the new routine for the next reload too? no!it takes 6-8 weeks for full-adaptation to occur when using anabolics. Full-adaptation is what you want so go with 8 weeks! When you start to feel over-trained during a blast or your joints begin to ache, simply reduce the total work sets by deloading and keep blasting. A longer reload gives the body more time to adjust and you will hold onto the muscle better! Let's recap-there is no set limit on how long you can blast. The key is to deload and reload throughout the entire blast and then do a 1-2 week prime when total burn out or a nagging injury occurs.

    if one of your trainees would still makes gain at week 8, could you keep him going for one or two more weeks (9-10 totals), or do you still deload at week 8? [b]we still deload as i have found that the very small gains that may have been made are too demanding on the body as a whole. Simply stated, the body needs a break form all the heavy training, anabolics and large consumption of protein. Wev'e experiemented with 9,10,11 and even 12 week reloads and have found that if you train very hard and consistently (as you should be doing) for 8 weeks straight you are done (put a fork in you to speak!) [/b]one more question.

    During a 2 week deload, what is a good strategy to follow? I'm finishing my 7th reload week, and feel like i am slowly getting overtrained, which is good. Main reason is that i kept adding a set here and there as the weeks passed by so that when i would deload, my body would have a reason to over-compensate (if that makes sense). On my reload, i basically followed an upper/lower split, 3-4 days a week.

    For my deload coming soon, i was thinking of doing it in two different ways.. Either:
    1 - train only m-w-f, reduce volume and train mainly my big lifts for low reps (1-5) to recover and increase strength (ex: Bench press for 3x3, followed by some light laterals raises and push-downs, you get it..)
    2 - train only m-w-f, slightly reduce volume, but basically go there and hit only isolation exercises for high reps, keeping 2 reps shy of failure(pec-dec instead of bench press, etc..), only aiming for a good pump, keeping the session short.
    3 - begin with a new training (keeping what has worked well though), but only hitting 50% of the volume for the first two weeks.

    Advice? (thanks ronnie)
    above in red!

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    [QUOTE=bernimx;5571831]Ronnie,

    In your experience, could a joint support supplement such as cissus work for the joint pain that occurs on a test-winny cycle? (I know you recommend deca, but let's say someone wants to avoid 19-nors)SOME HAVE HAD SUCCESS WITH JOINT SUPPLEMENTS BUT I DO NOT THINK THEY WORK WELL AT ALL REGARDING THE DRYING OUT EFFECTS OF WINSTROL. YOU SHOULD GIVE CISSUS A TRY AND SEE. IT CERTAINLY WON'T HURT BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK LIKE DECA. [/QUOTE]ABOVE.

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    Ronnie, I appreciate your Answer to post # 2469 on the page previous to this one, but here is my real issue right now:

    I can only get hcg in 10,000iu bottles and once you reconstitute with bs water, it only last 20-30 days. So my problem is i'd have to get like 5-6 bottles and waste alot of it. Anyone have any tips for making it last longer, or dividing it up when its a powder accurately? Or can i run it another way?

    I'm having an issue with determining how to run the HCG with 10,000IU bottles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercuryevo View Post
    ronnie, i appreciate your answer to post # 2469 on the page previous to this one, but here is my real issue right now:

    I can only get hcg in 10,000iu bottles and once you reconstitute with bs water, it only last 20-30 days. So my problem is i'd have to get like 5-6 bottles and waste alot of it. Anyone have any tips for making it last longer, or dividing it up when its a powder accurately? Or can i run it another way?

    I'm having an issue with determining how to run the hcg with 10,000iu bottles.
    just run it at the end of your 20 week cycle at 2500 twice a week for 2 weeks.

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