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    Probably had to do with using a stool.

    My dad told me a story about when he bounced in college at Tennessee. He worked in a bar where they had slapjacks and those little wooden baseball bats to use if needed, usually to hit a guy in the legs or something. Well the University of Tennessee wrestling team was there and a few started acting up. They tried to get the guys causing a scene to leave. One of the drunk ones got into it with a bouncer and after hitting the bouncer a few times and trying to take him to the ground, the bouncer hit him across the head with a little bat. He knocked him out and split him open bad. They arrest him for assault even though every one said it was in self defense.

    A weapon used on an unarmed or in your case pretty much unarmed individual usually doesnt end well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noles12 View Post
    Probably had to do with using a stool.

    My dad told me a story about when he bounced in college at Tennessee. He worked in a bar where they had slapjacks and those little wooden baseball bats to use if needed, usually to hit a guy in the legs or something. Well the University of Tennessee wrestling team was there and a few started acting up. They tried to get the guys causing a scene to leave. One of the drunk ones got into it with a bouncer and after hitting the bouncer a few times and trying to take him to the ground, the bouncer hit him across the head with a little bat. He knocked him out and split him open bad. They arrest him for assault even though every one said it was in self defense.

    A weapon used on an unarmed or in your case pretty much unarmed individual usually doesnt end well
    If you take a shot to the head with a beer bottle...you're going to the hospital. It's not like what you see in the movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronzer View Post
    If you take a shot to the head with a beer bottle...you're going to the hospital. It's not like what you see in the movies.
    I know what its like. Ive worked in many bars and clubs. Ive taken a few to the head along with a champagne bottle. a beer bottle will do some damage but not to the point of being hospitalized. The champagne bottle did knock me out for a few seconds though.

    Im not saying you should have gotten in trouble for what you did. You defended yourself when there was the chance of being harmed by another. Therefore you should have not be in trouble. I just said the only issue was probably the amount of force used in the situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noles12 View Post
    Probably had to do with using a stool.

    My dad told me a story about when he bounced in college at Tennessee. He worked in a bar where they had slapjacks and those little wooden baseball bats to use if needed, usually to hit a guy in the legs or something. Well the University of Tennessee wrestling team was there and a few started acting up. They tried to get the guys causing a scene to leave. One of the drunk ones got into it with a bouncer and after hitting the bouncer a few times and trying to take him to the ground, the bouncer hit him across the head with a little bat. He knocked him out and split him open bad. They arrest him for assault even though every one said it was in self defense.

    A weapon used on an unarmed or in your case pretty much unarmed individual usually doesnt end well
    There is a big difference. The person wasn't unarmed, he had a bottle (Not to mention, a broken bottle in his hand). I know someone that got attempted murder for trying to hit someone in the head with a beer bottle. It is very well considered a weapon and not to mention it was a broken beer bottle which is even worse. That person could easily been charged with an attempted murder charge for coming at someone like that. That would be like pulling a knife.

    If it went down how he said it did, he should truly have no problems. Basically, he used a weapon in fear of his life. That is what I would say

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    Quote Originally Posted by calstate23 View Post
    There is a big difference. The person wasn't unarmed, he had a bottle (Not to mention, a broken bottle in his hand). I know someone that got attempted murder for trying to hit someone in the head with a beer bottle. It is very well considered a weapon and not to mention it was a broken beer bottle which is even worse. That person could easily been charged with an attempted murder charge for coming at someone like that. That would be like pulling a knife.

    If it went down how he said it did, he should truly have no problems. Basically, he used a weapon in fear of his life. That is what I would say
    The OP never said the bottle was broken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noles12 View Post
    The OP never said the bottle was broken
    Yeah, my bad I read it wrong...But either way, like I was saying even an unbroken bottle is still considered a weapon. If you hit someone or try to hit someone with a beer bottle you can easily get an attempted murder charge just like the guy I know.

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