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    Ok I want my voice to be heard.

    I think I am in great shape, and I am well above my genetic potential and holding it. So you guys know I am not fat or skinny. Anyway...

    I love having a six pack and 18.5" arms. A 32 inch waist and 48" chest. Love it.

    But I also love my:

    Pizza
    Brownies
    Vodka n cranberry
    Smores poptarts
    Triple cheeseburgers.

    Hardcore diet is not essential unless you are competing. And if you are on an impeccable diet for a magical body, you will not be happy.

    Depriving yourself of the American Dream (cheeseburgers, fries, icecream, etc) is depressing.

    With diet, you can go far with keeping your carbs, calories, fats and proteins in check.

    My diet is NOWHERE near perfect, yet I am on the edge of 10%bf at 230lbs. Getting close.

    Like I said, unless you are not a competitor, there is no reason to dial in your entire life to diet.

    DIET IS IMPORTANT!! Please don't think I am saying it is not. It is more important than gear...but it is not something that should be the basis of giving people advice (Referring to the other post about diet)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hondarocks View Post
    And thats why you look bad ass in the mirror my friend and the AR diet guy
    Quote Originally Posted by SlimmerMe View Post
    ^^^ ditto!
    Thanks guys!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Little1 View Post
    But I also love my:

    Pizza
    Brownies
    Vodka n cranberry
    Smores poptarts
    Triple cheeseburgers.
    Amen

    Quote Originally Posted by Little1 View Post
    Hardcore diet is not essential unless you are competing.
    Too general a statement. Maybe for people like you, it isn't (i'm making the assumption that you're genetically predisposed to developing a nice physique, I know I could be wrong). For people like me, it is. And I never plan to compete. I let myself get out of shape in my early 20's and stayed that way for a good 15 years. That will wreak havoc on metabolism and bodily functions. I will not be able to have a relaxed diet any time in the foreseeable future. I'm genetically predisposed to gaining bodyfat. There are people I grew up with who ate worse than me, were just as inactive as me, and didn't get fat like I did. So, I wouldn't make a blanket statement like this. Also, 'hardcore' is a relative term. What's hardcore to you may be nothing to somebody else, or may be way beyond what another person is willing to commit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Little1 View Post
    And if you are on an impeccable diet for a magical body, you will not be happy.
    Again, a general statement. How can you know this? Because you aren't happy when you diet hardcore? IMO, it boils down to the individual, the goal at hand, and how bad he/she wants it. I know that for a couple of years, I felt deprived, etc. - everything you're saying above. But then something happened. I changed. I realized that when I ate 'crap' foods, I felt like crap - for days - mostly mental. When I eat and stick to my plan, I feel GREAT all the time. So, quite the opposite of what you're saying above.

    Quote Originally Posted by Little1 View Post
    Depriving yourself of the American Dream (cheeseburgers, fries, icecream, etc) is depressing.
    Don't get me wrong - I'm all for a break. My method is when i'm dieting and obviously want to stay sharp, and see something I want to eat, i'll write it in my phone for a future 'cheat'. This way, i'm not telling myself "no", only delaying the reward. It works wonders for feelings of deprivation. I've also noticed that by the time my planned cheat rolls around, I don't have a taste for half the shit I logged in my phone. It's a win win.

    Quote Originally Posted by Little1 View Post
    With diet, you can go far with keeping your carbs, calories, fats and proteins in check.

    My diet is NOWHERE near perfect, yet I am on the edge of 10%bf at 230lbs. Getting close.
    What were your beginning stats when you got in this game? Likely skinny, right? Did you get to your current stats with a very relaxed diet? I doubt it. And if you did, big congrats, you're lucky - and there's no sarcasm there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Little1 View Post
    Like I said, unless you are not a competitor, there is no reason to dial in your entire life to diet.
    Agreed for the most part. I don't want my life to be about diet, etc. That said - it goes back to what I stated before - what is your goal, and how bad do you want it? I'll say what i've said in the past:

    Most people don't spend the majority of their time obsessing over diet, nutrition, cooking, working out, etc. Then again, most people don't have the body of their dreams. Food for thought.

    Quote Originally Posted by Little1 View Post
    DIET IS IMPORTANT!! Please don't think I am saying it is not. It is more important than gear...but it is not something that should be the basis of giving people advice (Referring to the other post about diet)
    Not sure what you're referring to, or which post. Please clarify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbrice75 View Post
    Thanks guys!!!!



    Amen



    Too general a statement. Maybe for people like you, it isn't (i'm making the assumption that you're genetically predisposed to developing a nice physique, I know I could be wrong). For people like me, it is. And I never plan to compete. I let myself get out of shape in my early 20's and stayed that way for a good 15 years. That will wreak havoc on metabolism and bodily functions. I will not be able to have a relaxed diet any time in the foreseeable future. I'm genetically predisposed to gaining bodyfat. There are people I grew up with who ate worse than me, were just as inactive as me, and didn't get fat like I did. So, I wouldn't make a blanket statement like this. Also, 'hardcore' is a relative term. What's hardcore to you may be nothing to somebody else, or may be way beyond what another person is willing to commit.



    Again, a general statement. How can you know this? Because you aren't happy when you diet hardcore? IMO, it boils down to the individual, the goal at hand, and how bad he/she wants it. I know that for a couple of years, I felt deprived, etc. - everything you're saying above. But then something happened. I changed. I realized that when I ate 'crap' foods, I felt like crap - for days - mostly mental. When I eat and stick to my plan, I feel GREAT all the time. So, quite the opposite of what you're saying above.

    A friend of mine came over to my house. She wanted to watch "Finding Nemo". She also made brownies and covered them with icecream and fudge. Normally I would stay away and wish I could have it. And I would feel deprived. Especially when I see her devouring it. So I ate half of the box and about 8 scoops of icecream. Yea, I know it was a mistake, but I loved it and I had my fix.



    Don't get me wrong - I'm all for a break. My method is when i'm dieting and obviously want to stay sharp, and see something I want to eat, i'll write it in my phone for a future 'cheat'. This way, i'm not telling myself "no", only delaying the reward. It works wonders for feelings of deprivation. I've also noticed that by the time my planned cheat rolls around, I don't have a taste for half the shit I logged in my phone. It's a win win.



    What were your beginning stats when you got in this game? Likely skinny, right? Did you get to your current stats with a very relaxed diet? I doubt it. And if you did, big congrats, you're lucky - and there's no sarcasm there.

    I will post my pictures over the past few years in a few minutes. Before I started any AAS I was a natural 208-210lbs. I trained my ass off and got rest, but only ate three times a day. Then my first cycle got me to 232 at 22%bf because I ate nothing but pasta. Then I ran my first cycle (Test E/Dbol/hcg) and got to nearly 260lbs. Then I started to change my diet. I lost a shitload of strength, but I look better now. I will post the pictures in a minute. My diet was relaxed until last year. And dude, I NEVER NEVER annotated my macros. I never put pen to paper to calculate diet. I REFUSE to do that. If I was to compete, that would be different. My diet is relaxed. I just try to keep my protein high and carbs low. But Like I just said...the brownies and icecream I just had must have had close to 120 carbs. Yes I still have a six pack, and I will tomorrow. Because I bust my ****ing ass in the gym and on cardio days



    Agreed for the most part. I don't want my life to be about diet, etc. That said - it goes back to what I stated before - what is your goal, and how bad do you want it? I'll say what i've said in the past:

    Most people don't spend the majority of their time obsessing over diet, nutrition, cooking, working out, etc. Then again, most people don't have the body of their dreams. Food for thought.

    True, but obtaining that body is a true commitment. I bet 90% of the people here aren't satisfied. ****...Fireguy could even be unhappy. Dysmorphia.


    Not sure what you're referring to, or which post. Please clarify.
    I am saying that you should not have to master diet or be grilled about diet before you get advice on steroids. I was referring to the other thread going on about diet. Many people are going to cycle anyway, so might as well help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little1 View Post
    DIET IS IMPORTANT!! Please don't think I am saying it is not. It is more important than gear...but it is not something that should be the basis of giving people advice (Referring to the other post about diet)
    You are dramatizing it. Nobody said in the other post that you must eat a 100% perfect diet to use gear. The point made was that there are far too many people that want to use gear, and are vastly underweight with no knowledge of how to eat properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fetch View Post
    You are dramatizing it. Nobody said in the other post that you must eat a 100% perfect diet to use gear. The point made was that there are far too many people that want to use gear, and are vastly underweight with no knowledge of how to eat properly.
    ^^ this. And I reiterate, gear without a proper diet (among other things, i.e. training, etc) is next to useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbrice75 View Post
    ^^ this. And I reiterate, gear without a proper diet (among other things, i.e. training, etc) is next to useless.
    Yeah but I'm 18 and was told I could just take steroids and get huge overnite just like them guys from aussi-trailia so I wanna know now how to take um and dont give me no crapola cause Im spot on on my diet. I eat wheaties every morning....lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shol'va View Post
    Yeah but I'm 18 and was told I could just take steroids and get huge overnite just like them guys from aussi-trailia so I wanna know now how to take um and dont give me no crapola cause Im spot on on my diet. I eat wheaties every morning....lol
    lol it's funny, but truth be told, how many posts do we see on a daily basis that aren't too far off the mark from this?

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