Why do people love the AAS forum and hate the Diet forum?

[gbrice75]

And thats why you look bad ass in the mirror my friend and the AR diet guy

^^^ ditto!

Thanks guys!!!!

But I also love my:

Pizza
Brownies
Vodka n cranberry
Smores poptarts
Triple cheeseburgers.

Amen

Hardcore diet is not essential unless you are competing.

Too general a statement. Maybe for people like you, it isn't (i'm making the assumption that you're genetically predisposed to developing a nice physique, I know I could be wrong). For people like me, it is. And I never plan to compete. I let myself get out of shape in my early 20's and stayed that way for a good 15 years. That will wreak havoc on metabolism and bodily functions. I will not be able to have a relaxed diet any time in the foreseeable future. I'm genetically predisposed to gaining bodyfat. There are people I grew up with who ate worse than me, were just as inactive as me, and didn't get fat like I did. So, I wouldn't make a blanket statement like this. Also, 'hardcore' is a relative term. What's hardcore to you may be nothing to somebody else, or may be way beyond what another person is willing to commit.

And if you are on an impeccable diet for a magical body, you will not be happy.

Again, a general statement. How can you know this? Because you aren't happy when you diet hardcore? IMO, it boils down to the individual, the goal at hand, and how bad he/she wants it. I know that for a couple of years, I felt deprived, etc. - everything you're saying above. But then something happened. I changed. I realized that when I ate 'crap' foods, I felt like crap - for days - mostly mental. When I eat and stick to my plan, I feel GREAT all the time. So, quite the opposite of what you're saying above.

Depriving yourself of the American Dream (cheeseburgers, fries, icecream, etc) is depressing.

Don't get me wrong - I'm all for a break. My method is when i'm dieting and obviously want to stay sharp, and see something I want to eat, i'll write it in my phone for a future 'cheat'. This way, i'm not telling myself "no", only delaying the reward. It works wonders for feelings of deprivation. I've also noticed that by the time my planned cheat rolls around, I don't have a taste for half the shit I logged in my phone. It's a win win.

With diet, you can go far with keeping your carbs, calories, fats and proteins in check.

My diet is NOWHERE near perfect, yet I am on the edge of 10%bf at 230lbs. Getting close.

What were your beginning stats when you got in this game? Likely skinny, right? Did you get to your current stats with a very relaxed diet? I doubt it. And if you did, big congrats, you're lucky - and there's no sarcasm there.

Like I said, unless you are not a competitor, there is no reason to dial in your entire life to diet.

Agreed for the most part. I don't want my life to be about diet, etc. That said - it goes back to what I stated before - what is your goal, and how bad do you want it? I'll say what i've said in the past:

Most people don't spend the majority of their time obsessing over diet, nutrition, cooking, working out, etc. Then again, most people don't have the body of their dreams. Food for thought.

DIET IS IMPORTANT!! Please don't think I am saying it is not. It is more important than gear...but it is not something that should be the basis of giving people advice (Referring to the other post about diet)

Not sure what you're referring to, or which post. Please clarify.