1st Cycle. Test Prop.

[bluestone10]

Alright, let's eliminate the confusion. Wut r ur stats RITE NOW AS WE SPEAK?

well thats the thing. It depends on my carb intake. As of this second it is 158.5bls, but if i was to eat say 700g carbs tonight i would wake up tomorrow weighing 170lbs becuase of the water (still @ sub 8% tho).

The whole reason i cut down to 158.5 (which took me 2 weeks by the way ie mostly water) was because Ive read countless times you should be ripped when you start your cycle to minimize possility of gyno.

If you guys rather i be 180@10%, well ok then. No problem. That will take me 2 weeks. I do have the muscle and foundation tho. I just dont know how else to explain it or show it.

[The Bear 79]

well thats the thing. It depends on my carb intake. As of this second it is 158.5bls, but if i was to eat say 700g carbs tonight i would wake up tomorrow weighing 170lbs becuase of the water (still @ sub 8% tho).

The whole reason i cut down to 158.5 (which took me 2 weeks by the way ie mostly water) was because Ive read countless times you should be ripped when you start your cycle to minimize possility of gyno.

If you guys rather i be 180@10%, well ok then. No problem. That will take me 2 weeks. I do have the muscle and foundation tho. I just dont know how else to explain it or show it.

Bull sh!t!!!!

[bluestone10]

Bull sh!t!!!!

how is that bs? Im European and use KG's so i might of messed up the conversion, but gaining 4-5 kg's of water over night is easy if you are as depleted as i am and hold enough muscle to be around 180@10%.

This is what ia m trying to tell you. sub 8%bf is not good for the body inte the long run natty. Its not meant to be that low. It is screaming for fuel. All those carbs will be shoved right in to the muscle and i will balloon up.

again, this would not happen if i was 12% bf and ate 700g carbs. I would not gain as much. But now, its very possible.

[gixxerboy1]

how is that bs? Im European and use KG's so i might of messed up the conversion, but gaining 4-5 kg's of water over night is easy if you are as depleted as i am and hold enough muscle to be around 180@10%.

This is what ia m trying to tell you. sub 8%bf is not good for the body inte the long run natty. Its not meant to be that low. It is screaming for fuel. All those carbs will be shoved right in to the muscle and i will balloon up.

again, this would not happen if i was 12% bf and ate 700g carbs. I would not gain as much. But now, its very possible.

then your weight will settle back down. You dont have enough muscle on you now to be 180 @10%

a few % of bf doesnt equal the 20 something lbs you need to put on

[bluestone10]

then your weight will settle back down. You dont have enough muscle on you now to be 180 @10%

a few % of bf doesnt equal the 20 something lbs you need to put on

for me it does. i went from 174lbs to 158.5lbs within weeks.

and you have got it backwards. my weigt will settle HIGHER than it is now because i am forcing the bf down where it doesnt want to be.

[gixxerboy1]

for me it does. i went from 174lbs to 158.5lbs within weeks.

and you have got it backwards. my weigt will settle HIGHER than it is now because i am forcing the bf down where it doesnt want to be.

you didnt understand me. Yes you weight will go up because its depleted. Say it goes up 15 lbs because of the rebound. You will probably loose 5 of that once you settle.

158 @ 7% bf doesnt equal 180@ 10%. Its simple math.

[bluestone10]

you didnt understand me. Yes you weight will go up because its depleted. Say it goes up 15 lbs because of the rebound. You will probably loose 5 of that once you settle.

158 @ 7% bf doesnt equal 180@ 10%. Its simple math.

WTF? AGAIN; post number #3 is me at 174lbs@8%. That is how i look YEAR ROUND. THAT IS ME. Look at the snow in the back ground ffs. THAT IS MY DAY TO DAY PHYSIQUE.

174lbs@8% = 180lvs@10% EASY

and yes it does equate. First you add carbs and water weight will go up. Then you hit the gym with heavy weight and muscle will balloon back and then you increase bodyfat 2 points. thats how you go from 158,5 depleted to 180 full