well, i know of personally 6 guys that are dead from this board and 2 others.. none of them died from steroid use per say.. but from drugs that they used to combat the side effects of steroid use..

ie sleeping issues, renal failure etc..

for me 10 yrs 51.. I don't train and exercise to get bigger, stronger yes, better endurance for sure.. so my cycles now tend to be much more reasonable..