CEL H-DROL First prohormone cycle - need adivce

[Honkey_Kong]

I'm trying to get my hands on some Test E for a 10 week cycle.

250mg twice a week
arimidex .25 EOD
Maybe I could throw in an oral?

2 weeks after last pin running novla 40/40/20/20
Should I add clomid as well?

You don't need an oral for your first cycle. Trust me, you'll make some great gains if your diet and training are on. Remember to take a picture of yourself before, during and after the cycle so you can see the transformation.

Running Clomid as well would be a good idea. I don't run PCTs at all anymore, so I'm not the best authority. I just blast and cruise on my trt dose.

[Phased]

You don't need an oral for your first cycle. Trust me, you'll make some great gains if your diet and training are on. Remember to take a picture of yourself before, during and after the cycle so you can see the transformation.

Running Clomid as well would be a good idea. I don't run PCTs at all anymore, so I'm not the best authority. I just blast and cruise on my trt dose.

I dont agree at all with that statement, if you want to throw in an oral like tbol or dbol to kick start your cycle with a slow ester like Test E, it is totally fine. Did it myself and seen hundreds of guys do it without any issues and you get way more bang for your buck. Many guys hit weeks 4-6 with cyp or ethn and see nothing and they are already half way through the cycle with nothing to show, thats why you need a good oral to start you off to get the gains coming in. If your really against and oral for a first cycle then at the minmum front loading prop @ 500mg/w 1-4 will work as well, but I still think and oral kick start is much better. And if your running Cyp or Enth 12-14-16 weeks is preferred, not 10 weeks... especially if your not going to run a oral kickstart.

Just my opinion, research, learn, listen ask, then decide..

See you around,
Best of Luck

[Honkey_Kong]

I dont agree at all with that statement, if you want to throw in an oral like tbol or dbol to kick start your cycle with a slow ester like Test E, it is totally fine. Did it myself and seen hundreds of guys do it without any issues and you get way more bang for your buck. Many guys hit weeks 4-6 with cyp or ethn and see nothing and they are already half way through the cycle with nothing to show, thats why you need a good oral to start you off to get the gains coming in. If your really against and oral for a first cycle then at the minmum front loading prop @ 500mg/w 1-4 will work as well, but I still think and oral kick start is much better. And if your running Cyp or Enth 12-14-16 weeks is preferred, not 10 weeks... especially if your not going to run a oral kickstart.

Just my opinion, research, learn, listen ask, then decide..

See you around,
Best of Luck

I'll agree with you on the 10 weeks being too short for a long ester. But for a first time cycle you'd kickstart it with an oral?

[Phased]

I'll agree with you on the 10 weeks being too short for a long ester. But for a first time cycle you'd kickstart it with an oral?

Yes why not a kick start with an oral, you want your first cycle to be one of your best, adding an oral kick is not going to harm him in anyway. Tbol or Dbol are relatively safe and if you go look in the education forum there is a thread about beginners cycles and most of them include an oral for a first cycle. I did not write the thread but I agree with it 100% and as I said if you think just test for a first cycle then front load with test prop. However I still do not think its as effective as an oral kick. There is little strength gains that come from straight test, but huge strength gains with tbol or dbol. What not a better way to get you gains coming early and with strength then using one of those.

See you around

[Atibbo]

I dont agree at all with that statement, if you want to throw in an oral like tbol or dbol to kick start your cycle with a slow ester like Test E, it is totally fine. Did it myself and seen hundreds of guys do it without any issues and you get way more bang for your buck. Many guys hit weeks 4-6 with cyp or ethn and see nothing and they are already half way through the cycle with nothing to show, thats why you need a good oral to start you off to get the gains coming in. If your really against and oral for a first cycle then at the minmum front loading prop @ 500mg/w 1-4 will work as well, but I still think and oral kick start is much better. And if your running Cyp or Enth 12-14-16 weeks is preferred, not 10 weeks... especially if your not going to run a oral kickstart.

Just my opinion, research, learn, listen ask, then decide..

See you around,
Best of Luck

Thanks for the advice, much appreciated.

The reason for 10 weeks and not 12 is because 2 bottles will last exactaly 10 weeks. I don't wanna spend the money on a third when I'll only use 2ml of it. =/

[Phased]

Thanks for the advice, much appreciated.

The reason for 10 weeks and not 12 is because 2 bottles will last exactaly 10 weeks. I don't wanna spend the money on a third when I'll only use 2ml of it. =/

Never start a cycle unless you have all the gear nessasary to complete based of the gear you chose. If you only have 10 weeks of cyp or ethn then your not ready for that cycle, save money and buy more gear until you have what's required of the gear you intend to use. Also you lose hear with drawing, getting air out and accidents ie..mess ups, and things like that so really 3 bottles might be exactly what you need, even though you think it's too much.