Quote Originally Posted by Phased View Post
I dont agree at all with that statement, if you want to throw in an oral like tbol or dbol to kick start your cycle with a slow ester like Test E, it is totally fine. Did it myself and seen hundreds of guys do it without any issues and you get way more bang for your buck. Many guys hit weeks 4-6 with cyp or ethn and see nothing and they are already half way through the cycle with nothing to show, thats why you need a good oral to start you off to get the gains coming in. If your really against and oral for a first cycle then at the minmum front loading prop @ 500mg/w 1-4 will work as well, but I still think and oral kick start is much better. And if your running Cyp or Enth 12-14-16 weeks is preferred, not 10 weeks... especially if your not going to run a oral kickstart.

Just my opinion, research, learn, listen ask, then decide..

See you around,
Best of Luck
I'll agree with you on the 10 weeks being too short for a long ester. But for a first time cycle you'd kickstart it with an oral?