If it fits your macros.....whats your take on this?

[--->>405<<---]

I mean a calorie may be a calorie but a calorie from chicken breast will require a lot more to be broken down than candy bar.

1 calorie is indeed 1 calorie in the sense they both have the required amount of energy to raise 1kg water 1 kelvin at standard atmospheric pressure.

IMO thats where it ends. macronutrient breakdown or percentages of foods are what give them their specific effectiveness as a functioning food. id be willing to bet if u followed all these so called "calorie is a calorie" people around for a week u would find most of em probably do not reflect that belief in their actions, specifically, what they put into their bodies. my guess is that before they lift theyre gonna eat protein and carbs. after they lift theyre gonna have protein. the types of carbs might vary but the presence of protein will definitely be there.

if a calorie is a calorie then we would only need to eat "X" amount of cals per day and it wouldnt matter where they came from. this is absurd. i suggest u recruit these guys and have em drink nothing but their total caloric requirements in olive oil for 6 months and lets see how good they look and feel as well as how well they perform.

[Papiriqui]

1 calorie is indeed 1 calorie in the sense they both have the required amount of energy to raise 1kg water 1 kelvin at standard atmospheric pressure.

IMO thats where it ends. macronutrient breakdown or percentages of foods are what give them their specific effectiveness as a functioning food. id be willing to bet if u followed all these so called "calorie is a calorie" people around for a week u would find most of em probably do not reflect that belief in their actions, specifically, what they put into their bodies. my guess is that before they lift theyre gonna eat protein and carbs. after they lift theyre gonna have protein. the types of carbs might vary but the presence of protein will definitely be there.

if a calorie is a calorie then we would only need to eat "X" amount of cals per day and it wouldnt matter where they came from. this is absurd. i suggest u recruit these guys and have em drink nothing but their total caloric requirements in olive oil for 6 months and lets see how good they look and feel as well as how well they perform.

Correct!!! Not to mention that with junk food you will never hit your protein intake (unless you go over your caloric daily intake) which is one of the things we try to hit to keep muscle loss at a minimum while cutting which is the whole idea. Burn fat and keep hard earn muscle....

[energizer bunny]

Correct!!! Not to mention that with junk food you will never hit your protein intake (unless you go over your caloric daily intake) which is one of the things we try to hit to keep muscle loss at a minimum while cutting which is the whole idea. Burn fat and keep hard earn muscle....

exactly,,,,,,i dont mean junk food as such........more so swapping white rice for brown, more shakes in water than tins of tuna, chicken thigh instead of chicken breast, fatty cuts of beef over lean etc etc............maybe fit the odd junk meal here and there but i personally dont think it would be posibles to hit cals and macros with pure junk type foods e.g mcdonalds

[Papiriqui]

exactly,,,,,,i dont mean junk food as such........more so swapping white rice for brown, more shakes in water than tins of tuna, chicken thigh instead of chicken breast, fatty cuts of beef over lean etc etc............maybe fit the odd junk meal here and there but i personally dont think it would be posibles to hit cals and macros with pure junk type foods e.g mcdonalds

Yeah like 405 mentioned earlier, you should stick now with all lean foods for a while to cut as much as possible and than start playing with different things and see how your body reacts to those foods, sometimes it is not worth it, 30 minutes of pleasure and a whole day being bloated, talking from personal experience!!!

But you need to keep sane so a cheat meal from time to time is not a bad idea, you can always do carb cycling which lets you indulge in the bad choices we normally stay away from. Different things work differently. Just give it a try and see for yourself and what works best for you to achieve your goal

[energizer bunny]

Yeah like 405 mentioned earlier, you should stick now with all lean foods for a while to cut as much as possible and than start playing with different things and see how your body reacts to those foods, sometimes it is not worth it, 30 minutes of pleasure and a whole day being bloated, talking from personal experience!!!

But you need to keep sane so a cheat meal from time to time is not a bad idea, you can always do carb cycling which lets you indulge in the bad choices we normally stay away from. Different things work differently. Just give it a try and see for yourself and what works best for you to achieve your goal

cheers papi!.......the reason i came across this subject was simply because i wanted to have more shakes with whey,water and oats during the working day and it just spiraled from there...........so now i have more shakes because there aint a problem with that..........the rest is just interesting and something i think will suit my goals more than being super strict with bland foods.............ill keep track and see exactly were it takes me.

cheers.

[-KJ-]

1 calorie is indeed 1 calorie in the sense they both have the required amount of energy to raise 1kg water 1 kelvin at standard atmospheric pressure.

IMO thats where it ends. macronutrient breakdown or percentages of foods are what give them their specific effectiveness as a functioning food. id be willing to bet if u followed all these so called "calorie is a calorie" people around for a week u would find most of em probably do not reflect that belief in their actions, specifically, what they put into their bodies. my guess is that before they lift theyre gonna eat protein and carbs. after they lift theyre gonna have protein. the types of carbs might vary but the presence of protein will definitely be there.

if a calorie is a calorie then we would only need to eat "X" amount of cals per day and it wouldnt matter where they came from. this is absurd. i suggest u recruit these guys and have em drink nothing but their total caloric requirements in olive oil for 6 months and lets see how good they look and feel as well as how well they perform.

i wasnt implying that all calories are equal if thats what u thought lol