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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerspawn View Post
    Although genetics plays a big part in the development of any body part, I think the bigger problem with the current lack of lats has to do with the exercises applied.



    According to Schwarzenegger back exercises should be divided into four categories:
    1) Exercises that develop lat width: Wide-grip chins
    2) Exercises that work on lat thickness: Bent-over barbell rows, Seated cable rows
    3) Exercises that build up the lower lats: Close-grip chins, close-grip pull downs
    4) Exercises that develop the lower back and spinal erectors: Deadlifts





    Deadlifts are viewed primarily as a back movement; as this is where the main stress is throughout the movement. Indeed, the lower back will become big and strong after a surprisingly short period, with the deadlift. The lats and associated muscles are also worked to a large degree - especially at the top of the movement. Deadlifts strengthen the entire back and its surrounding muscles and is most effective exercise for building the core strength that supports all other major muscle groups. The deadlift is considered the king of exercises it works the entire body better than any other exercise.
    Did u copy all of that out of an old school bodybuilding book....

    And if I were you I'd not read too much into Arnold's book..... Research and opinions have come a long way since those days...



    OP, as far as 'lower lats' there is no such muscle group..... There are just lats......

    You basically want to develop the lower portion of your lats.....


    3 options

    Your lat insertions are high and therefore you have short lats..... If this is the case you cant do anything....

    Your bodyfat is too high which is hiding the lats, especially the lower lat area.... If this is the case then you need to dial your nutrition in and focus on loosing bodyfat...

    Or the last option and IMO the most likely issue.... Your lats suck! You need to actually develop lats, period, if you want to see the lower lats..... Kind of similar to the guys who want upper chest.... What they really want is a chest in general....
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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
    Did u copy all of that out of an old school bodybuilding book....
    No didnt copy anything. I read alot. Use techniques alot and pass on what I learn. He asked a question I answered it. You on the other hand cut Op down, told him to lose BF and that he needed to build his lats. He already knows that his lats are a problem area. Thats why he is here asking for help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerspawn View Post
    No didnt copy anything. I read alot. Use techniques alot and pass on what I learn. He asked a question I answered it. You on the other hand cut Op down, told him to lose BF and that he needed to build his lats. He already knows that his lats are a problem area. Thats why he is here asking for help.
    No, I did not 'cut the op down' lol

    I actually gave him sound advise....

    Your advise on the other hand is worthless.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
    No, I did not 'cut the op down' lol

    I actually gave him sound advise....

    Your advise on the other hand is worthless.....
    Thanks for your opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
    Did u copy all of that out of an old school bodybuilding book....

    And if I were you I'd not read too much into Arnold's book..... Research and opinions have come a long way since those days...
    care to quote some?

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