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    Ok, taken directly from a PCT thread:

    Using Nolva while using HCG helps stop HCG from de-sensitizing your testicles to natural LH. In my opinion, any decent cycle/PCT should include HCG. It has been suggested to me that HCG can be used throughout a cycle at 500iu E4D, but im unsure of this from practical experience. The most favorable way is to use it in the last couple weeks of your cycle at a higher dose, like 500iu ED. The trick is to end the use of HCG just as the last AAS is running out of your system. So, 3 weeks before the the last ester leaves your blood, you would start the HCG/nolva combo. HCG at about 500iu ED and Nolva 20mg ED. This is done before Nolva/aromasin (for example) PCT starts, and runs about a few weeks longer than the end of the HCG. Always include Nolva with your HCG, they work together well. Be careful not to overdose on HCG and permanently desenstize your testicles to LH. HCG has an active life of about 3 days.


    So run it throughout the cycle from day 1 or wait until the last 3 weeks as recommended in the above excerpt? I want to lookout for my boys best as possible!

    EDIT: haha you're good, I'll take a look at them now. I really appreciate the help man, lots of good info you're letting me in on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brobeans443 View Post
    Ok, taken directly from a PCT thread:

    Using Nolva while using HCG helps stop HCG from de-sensitizing your testicles to natural LH. In my opinion, any decent cycle/PCT should include HCG. It has been suggested to me that HCG can be used throughout a cycle at 500iu E4D, but im unsure of this from practical experience. The most favorable way is to use it in the last couple weeks of your cycle at a higher dose, like 500iu ED. The trick is to end the use of HCG just as the last AAS is running out of your system. So, 3 weeks before the the last ester leaves your blood, you would start the HCG/nolva combo. HCG at about 500iu ED and Nolva 20mg ED. This is done before Nolva/aromasin (for example) PCT starts, and runs about a few weeks longer than the end of the HCG. Always include Nolva with your HCG, they work together well. Be careful not to overdose on HCG and permanently desenstize your testicles to LH. HCG has an active life of about 3 days.


    So run it throughout the cycle from day 1 or wait until the last 3 weeks as recommended in the above excerpt? I want to lookout for my boys best as possible!

    EDIT: haha you're good, I'll take a look at them now. I really appreciate the help man, lots of good info you're letting me in on.
    Some of the information on this site is outdated and not up to par with today protocols and clinical data. This site has been around for over 10 years (12 i believe) and there are threads and stickies that require purging. It's being addressed as far as i know. But in the future, if you find something that doesn't jive don't hesitate to get clarification on it. That's what we are here for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    Some of the information on this site is outdated and not up to par with today protocols and clinical data. This site has been around for over 10 years (12 i believe) and there are threads and stickies that require purging. It's being addressed as far as i know. But in the future, if you find something that doesn't jive don't hesitate to get clarification on it. That's what we are here for.
    Glad you're here ! So just out of curiousity, will natural gains be harder to make after the cycle or will natural gains stay the same? I heard after a cycle it's harder to progress naturally than before, but I'm not sure if this is true or not. I believe I'm at the point of my genetic potential, but I was just curious of what I should expect after the first cycle. Thanks again man! Wish there was a way to rep/commend you.

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