Duration of first cycle.

[DexterMorgan]

I'm well aware of the recommended cycle lengths and the half life of the hormones. I fully understand how long it takes for the ester to cleave off and for the hormone to be active.

The biggest reason for the recommended cycle length duration is the increased threat to the HPTA by running extended cycles, not because a shorter run is completely ineffective. As I stated before, there are many good reasons to run short cycles even with long esters and they are not ineffective. In fact, as I already pointed out, less time on is less time your shut down and that increases your odds of recovery.

I agree with you Lunk, you can make gains on a 6 week cycle, its definitely possible. Recovery will be easier too. But you can get much better gains running it for 12 week cycle.

[Lunk1]

I agree with you Lunk, you can make gains on a 6 week cycle, its definitely possible. Recovery will be easier too. But you can get much better gains running it for 12 week cycle.

I don't know if "much better" is the term I would use but you definitely can still take full advantage of the active hormone for the longer duration I agree. Think of it another way though. What if I wanted to run 3 6 week cycles vs 2 12 week cycles. I'm going to have less total time on and more time recovered.

There is a lot to be said for short cycles even with long esters. Give it some research.

[DexterMorgan]

I don't know if "much better" is the term I would use but you definitely can still take full advantage of the active hormone for the longer duration I agree. Think of it another way though. What if I wanted to run 3 6 week cycles vs 2 12 week cycles. I'm going to have less total time on and more time recovered.

There is a lot to be said for short cycles even with long esters. Give it some research.

You might not get good gains from a 6 week cycle, so you could be shutting yourself down pretty much for no reason. I remember reading one of Austin's posts where he was saying that it takes 8 weeks for him to even notice the gains from test.

I did my research on this topic, most vets wouldn't recommend running long esters for 6 weeks, especially for your 1st cycle.