Starting first tren cycle on monday any advice?

[ethan1078]

It's recommended to throw in some test into the mix so you can still function like a man... ergo, still use your friend down there.

Tren and anadrol are seriously taxing compounds to your HPTA.

Also, if you can get your hands on some hcg that'll be helpful.

Finally, do you have something to counter the prolactin effects of tren? Something like caber could work.

this may sound stupid, but here we go anyway, I'm only 18 so my test levels are pretty much through the roof i guess i do understand that the gear will change all that as for caber how much would you generally look at for price?

[uhit]

this may sound stupid, but here we go anyway, I'm only 18 so my test levels are pretty much through the roof i guess i do understand that the gear will change all that as for caber how much would you generally look at for price?

Yeah you have high natural test. But that natural test, no matter how high it is will be non existant once you introduce tren and anadrol into your system as I said earlier it shuts down the HPTA system.
That's why we all use test as a base, because we cannot produce it natural when using exogenous hormones.

And price for caber vary from source to source. I can't say for sure because we can't discuss it here as it is against the rules. Perhaps you can hold onto your gear that you have and do some more research, the risks, the rewards etc. Prepare yourself for every possible situation and then hop on. At 18 you got all the time in the world bro, no need to rush things already by using gear.

Mind giving us more stats so we can help better?

Weight
Height
Body fat %
Training experience
Goals

[ethan1078]

Yeah you have high natural test. But that natural test, no matter how high it is will be non existant once you introduce tren and anadrol into your system as I said earlier it shuts down the HPTA system.
That's why we all use test as a base, because we cannot produce it natural when using exogenous hormones.

And price for caber vary from source to source. I can't say for sure because we can't discuss it here as it is against the rules. Perhaps you can hold onto your gear that you have and do some more research, the risks, the rewards etc. Prepare yourself for every possible situation and then hop on. At 18 you got all the time in the world bro, no need to rush things already by using gear.

Mind giving us more stats so we can help better?

Weight
Height
Body fat %
Training experience
Goals

you make some great points bro i probably will push it back another couple weeks to do a little more research and get liver guard and everything in place,
As for the tren dose what do you think of that for a first cycle of tren? effective?


stats

weight: 168 pounds
Body fat 13%
Heigh just over 5 ft
training exp - 17 months
Goals are Aesthetic Lean body ( most goals of males my age and most ages )

[uhit]

you make some great points bro i probably will push it back another couple weeks to do a little more research and get liver guard and everything in place,
As for the tren dose what do you think of that for a first cycle of tren? effective?


stats

weight: 168 pounds
Body fat 13%
Heigh just over 5 ft
training exp - 17 months
Goals are Aesthetic Lean body ( most goals of males my age and most ages )

I'll let someone more experienced comment on your stats since I have no idea if being 168lbs at 5ft is possible naturally while being at 13% (from what I've seen anyway)

In relation to the tren, if this is your first cycle you won't know for sure what problems which drug will cause as you'll essentially be using 3 different compounds. That's why a good idea is to run a test e cycle, then pct + time off and then if so desired on your next cycle add in more compounds.

But to answer your question it's not uncommon practice to see dosages go from around 200 - 300mg of tren ace per week, which equates to about 50mg - 75mg eod. The side effects you get vary individual to individual and obviously dose dependent. Tren is a compound which even at minimal doses will provide great results as long as your training and diet are in check.

what if i were to run say Test E with it? at 500mg per week

At the end of the day, what you do is up to you. However we will advice you, and as such it is not a good idea to dive in at such a young age.

However, assuming you want to gain knowledge then yes 500mg per week is fine for test e.

But I highly insist you listen to lovbyts because he's been in the game for a long time and has seen it all.

[ethan1078]

I'll let someone more experienced comment on your stats since I have no idea if being 168lbs at 5ft is possible naturally while being at 13% (from what I've seen anyway)

In relation to the tren, if this is your first cycle you won't know for sure what problems which drug will cause as you'll essentially be using 3 different compounds. That's why a good idea is to run a test e cycle, then pct + time off and then if so desired on your next cycle add in more compounds.

But to answer your question it's not uncommon practice to see dosages go from around 200 - 300mg of tren ace per week, which equates to about 50mg - 75mg eod. The side effects you get vary individual to individual and obviously dose dependent. Tren is a compound which even at minimal doses will provide great results as long as your training and diet are in check.

Hope I have been of help, post any more queries and i'll try to answer them

Estimated height unable to check at the moment sorry

But this is my first Tren cycle, i have done a Test E Cycle before results were pretty shitty due to my test being high already, did gain 6kg about 1.5kg was water weight

ALSO EOD? i know it means every other day, what is every other day exactly?

[uhit]

Estimated height unable to check at the moment sorry

But this is my first Tren cycle, i have done a Test E Cycle before results were pretty shitty due to my test being high already, did gain 6kg about 1.5kg was water weight

ALSO EOD? i know it means every other day, what is every other day exactly?

EoD = M/W/F/S <--- week 1
T/Th/S <---- week 2

Sorry if I misunderstood, I assumed this was your first cycle.
The test e cycle should have given good gains seeing as if you were to say hypothetically have around 500mg of test a week that'll throw your levels to the 3,000nl rather than what it is now naturally (high imo is probably 800-1,000).

I suspect you didn't eat sufficient calories during the course of your cycle, hence the disappointment.

A bit shocked you've already completed a cycle at 18 tbh. Not the smartest approach.

[ethan1078]

EoD = M/W/F/S <--- week 1
T/Th/S <---- week 2

Sorry if I misunderstood, I assumed this was your first cycle.
The test e cycle should have given good gains seeing as if you were to say hypothetically have around 500mg of test a week that'll throw your levels to the 3,000nl rather than what it is now naturally (high imo is probably 800-1,000).

I suspect you didn't eat sufficient calories during the course of your cycle, hence the disappointment.

A bit shocked you've already completed a cycle at 18 tbh. Not the smartest approach.

Calories were up but was under alot of stress at the time so was burning through them like crazy