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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    That's likely too much dex.

    You should read the link attached below.

    With all the information available it doesn't make sense to skip hcg.
    So you would go with 0.5mg EOD to avoid sides?

    In regards to HCG:

    - Can I load it in the same syringe as the test, or does it need to be injected separately?

    - If I can get some HCG in the next week or two, does it make any sense to start using it 2-3 weeks into a cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffeehead View Post
    So you would go with 0.5mg EOD to avoid sides?

    In regards to HCG:

    - Can I load it in the same syringe as the test, or does it need to be injected separately?

    - If I can get some HCG in the next week or two, does it make any sense to start using it 2-3 weeks into a cycle?
    Imo you should begin with 0.25mg/EOD of dex.

    Then have blood work mid cycle that contains a sensitive e2 test.

    Based on the results of that test you can increase the dex dosage if needed.

    Test and hcg can be loaded in the same syringe but from my experience you'll be better off buying a box of insulin syringes and pinning the hcg subq.

    Yes, beginning hcg 2-3 weeks into a cycle is better than the never using it, but you should postpone starting the cycle until you have hcg.

    FYI when storing hcg for long periods and using the vial for multiple injections you need to reconstitute with bacteriostatic water.

    The sodium chloride water hcg comes packaged with is intended only for single use.

    What is your intended protocol for PCT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    Imo you should begin with 0.25mg/EOD of dex.

    Then have blood work mid cycle that contains a sensitive e2 test.

    Based on the results of that test you can increase the dex dosage if needed.

    Test and hcg can be loaded in the same syringe but from my experience you'll be better off buying a box of insulin syringes and pinning the hcg subq.

    Yes, beginning hcg 2-3 weeks into a cycle is better than the never using it, but you should postpone starting the cycle until you have hcg.

    FYI when storing hcg for long periods and using the vial for multiple injections you need to reconstitute with bacteriostatic water.

    The sodium chloride water hcg comes packaged with is intended only for single use.

    What is your intended protocol for PCT?
    Noted. I've read that I should use the least amount of adex as possible. Splitting a tiny pill into 1/4 while be difficult out but I'll figure it out.

    I'll need to research hcg more and figure out to properly use it. I'm afraid I haven't done adequate research on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffeehead View Post
    Noted. I've read that I should use the least amount of adex as possible. Splitting a tiny pill into 1/4 while be difficult out but I'll figure it out.

    I'll need to research hcg more and figure out to properly use it. I'm afraid I haven't done adequate research on it.
    I use a pill cutter with a sliding bracket that secures the pill. I have rx for adex and split the small pills without issue. Are they exactly 1/4 each? No, but of no consequence.

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    Also, most times i try a New batch of gear, i do 0,5ml subq first.
    But thats cause Id prefer a immunoreaction / infection in my fat tissue Close to the skin, where i coukd easily remove it,
    than deep IM, where its gonna stay.
    Have to say I've never had a need for this precautioun though.

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