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    Chronic oxidative stress has been something talked about in the exercise phys literature. Basically in the 90’s and 2000’s a alarming amount of elite level runners from tr 70’s and 80’s started dropping dead from CAD which put them in there late 40’s and 50’s. The thought was that due to the increased amount of reactive oxygen species (free radicals) produced as a byproduct of aerobic exercise. These reactive oxygen molecules were floating around oxidizing and damaging tissues. Oxygen is a highly reactive chemical and for most forms of primitive life, is very toxic.

    Because these athletes bodies was producing chronically high levels of these free radicals, they were at a similar or in some studies even, at a higher risk than sedintary adults at developing heart disease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Chronic oxidative stress has been something talked about in the exercise phys literature. Basically in the 90’s and 2000’s a alarming amount of elite level runners from tr 70’s and 80’s started dropping dead from CAD which put them in there late 40’s and 50’s. The thought was that due to the increased amount of reactive oxygen species (free radicals) produced as a byproduct of aerobic exercise. These reactive oxygen molecules were floating around oxidizing and damaging tissues. Oxygen is a highly reactive chemical and for most forms of primitive life, is very toxic.

    Because these athletes bodies was producing chronically high levels of these free radicals, they were at a similar or in some studies even, at a higher risk than sedintary adults at developing heart disease.
    Hotter the flame the faster it consumes. I don't see it as scientifically explained but rather a given law.

    What if we all have a predetermined amout of energy we can expend before death? Such as a candle...
    Burning you candle at both ends = improper medical maitenance.
    I believe we all have a final expenditure total. Are you fast and hard or slow and steady? I also dont think we control it much at all in the grand scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke View Post
    Hotter the flame the faster it consumes. I don't see it as scientifically explained but rather a given law.

    What if we all have a predetermined amout of energy we can expend before death? Such as a candle...
    Burning you candle at both ends = improper medical maitenance.
    I believe we all have a final expenditure total. Are you fast and hard or slow and steady? I also dont think we control it much at all in the grand scheme.
    There is a universal limit on cardiac muscle and how many times it can beat before failure. I think the number is like 2 billion beats. Pretty much goes for all higher organisms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    There is a universal limit on cardiac muscle and how many times it can beat before failure. I think the number is like 2 billion beats. Pretty much goes for all higher organisms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke View Post
    Well fuck...
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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    Obs- no more EC stacks!
    Lmfao! If you only knew how much I had a few hours ago!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke View Post
    Well fuck...
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    What I was saying is Your assumption was pretty much spot on. And of course my example was just one aspect within your expenditure analogy. Another is how people who eat a calorically restricted diet typically will live longer than those that gorge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    There is a universal limit on cardiac muscle and how many times it can beat before failure. I think the number is like 2 billion beats. Pretty much goes for all higher organisms.

    Guess that means I'm running out soon. Great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Chronic oxidative stress has been something talked about in the exercise phys literature. Basically in the 90’s and 2000’s a alarming amount of elite level runners from tr 70’s and 80’s started dropping dead from CAD which put them in there late 40’s and 50’s. The thought was that due to the increased amount of reactive oxygen species (free radicals) produced as a byproduct of aerobic exercise. These reactive oxygen molecules were floating around oxidizing and damaging tissues. Oxygen is a highly reactive chemical and for most forms of primitive life, is very toxic.

    Because these athletes bodies was producing chronically high levels of these free radicals, they were at a similar or in some studies even, at a higher risk than sedintary adults at developing heart disease.
    Thanx MS you took the words right out of my mouth :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Chronic oxidative stress has been something talked about in the exercise phys literature. Basically in the 90’s and 2000’s a alarming amount of elite level runners from tr 70’s and 80’s started dropping dead from CAD which put them in there late 40’s and 50’s. The thought was that due to the increased amount of reactive oxygen species (free radicals) produced as a byproduct of aerobic exercise. These reactive oxygen molecules were floating around oxidizing and damaging tissues. Oxygen is a highly reactive chemical and for most forms of primitive life, is very toxic.

    Because these athletes bodies was producing chronically high levels of these free radicals, they were at a similar or in some studies even, at a higher risk than sedintary adults at developing heart disease.

    I am curious where did you read about Oxidative stress in the article? I read the whole article and couldn't find any indication of oxidative stress and only one mention of word stress at all when referring to heart rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puffy16 View Post
    I am curious where did you read about Oxidative stress in the article? I read the whole article and couldn't find any indication of oxidative stress and only one mention of word stress at all when referring to heart rate.
    It wasn’t, it’s just a controversial theory in the exercise phys scientific literature as a proposed mechanism for why extreme endurance athletes drop dead early.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    It wasn’t, it’s just a controversial theory in the exercise phys scientific literature as a proposed mechanism for why extreme endurance athletes drop dead early.
    Doctors in general are ANTI IGF. Anything that raises IGF is evil to them. They focus on the incurable items like cancer as the focus of life. Anything to avoid the cancer has to be good right.

    Ask Bolo Yeung how much high IGF impacted him as an elite bodybuilder and later life living. He is still kicking and living a good life.

    Everyone in the world has to have something that makes them relevant. Clucking about Oxidative Stress gets research students money from groups that benefit from treatment surrounding Oxadative Stress. We are back to Big Pharma...any questions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier View Post
    Doctors in general are ANTI IGF. Anything that raises IGF is evil to them. They focus on the incurable items like cancer as the focus of life. Anything to avoid the cancer has to be good right.

    Ask Bolo Yeung how much high IGF impacted him as an elite bodybuilder and later life living. He is still kicking and living a good life.

    Everyone in the world has to have something that makes them relevant. Clucking about Oxidative Stress gets research students money from groups that benefit from treatment surrounding Oxadative Stress. We are back to Big Pharma...any questions?
    I don't know much about a lot of the oxidative stress but...
    MONEY

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Chronic oxidative stress has been something talked about in the exercise phys literature. Basically in the 90’s and 2000’s a alarming amount of elite level runners from tr 70’s and 80’s started dropping dead from CAD which put them in there late 40’s and 50’s. The thought was that due to the increased amount of reactive oxygen species (free radicals) produced as a byproduct of aerobic exercise. These reactive oxygen molecules were floating around oxidizing and damaging tissues. Oxygen is a highly reactive chemical and for most forms of primitive life, is very toxic.

    Because these athletes bodies was producing chronically high levels of these free radicals, they were at a similar or in some studies even, at a higher risk than sedintary adults at developing heart disease.
    Excellent example on this subject.

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