My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

[kelkel]

Well, internet dogma will tell you never to run to 19-Nor's at the same time. But that's the internet. Imho I would simply not recommend it as it's uneccessary. Now this is not a dig at you, but if someone really needs to do this I would hope they are extremely advanced and not just a gym rat. It's simply not necessary no matter what your close friend does. Internally (blood work wise) he may be a piece of shit but look good on the outside. If someone can't make progress on either test/deca or test/tren the the issue is nutrition and training.

You are 23. Honestly if you've gotten to the point that you need that combination then I have to assume you've run a ton of cycles in the past already or you're depending on AAS to do the work for you without putting in the time and effort in the gym. Again, not a dig at you, just an easy observation to make from someone who's been in this game decades longer as well as being relatively advanced.

So, back to the proposed cycle. What ancillaries will you be running if you choose to do this?

[NEcld94]

Well, internet dogma will tell you never to run to 19-Nor's at the same time. But that's the internet. Imho I would simply not recommend it as it's uneccessary. Now this is not a dig at you, but if someone really needs to do this I would hope they are extremely advanced and not just a gym rat. It's simply not necessary no matter what your close friend does. Internally (blood work wise) he may be a piece of shit but look good on the outside. If someone can't make progress on either test/deca or test/tren the the issue is nutrition and training.

You are 23. Honestly if you've gotten to the point that you need that combination then I have to assume you've run a ton of cycles in the past already or you're depending on AAS to do the work for you without putting in the time and effort in the gym. Again, not a dig at you, just an easy observation to make from someone who's been in this game decades longer as well as being relatively advanced.

So, back to the proposed cycle. What ancillaries will you be running if you choose to do this?

I appreciate your opinion honestly. That is why i am here. To get honest opinions from the guys who have been in the game longer than myself or my friend. FTR i was not saying the what my friend was doing was right by any means it was just an observation. That being said and after reading the second to last paragraph of yours, im thinking that i can work hard enough to get gains with just test/deca. Also, im not sure i want to deal with the more severe side effects from tren.

[NEcld94]

As far as what ancillaries, I used clomid alone during the first cycle and it turned put great. No sides at all and BW came back perfect. After reading this however, Im going to throw in nolvadex as well. Ultimatly, i want to make sure i am doing this the best i can so that i can get the most out of it. I'm not looking for a magic potion or anything like that. I recently went to the doctor and he told me they found some precancerous cells in my esophogus, at 23 i was one of the yougest patients with these cells that he has seen, and i spoke to him about the gear i used in the past and he hinted that it would be a good idea to use some "supplements" to help get my body back in tip-top shape with his monitoring of course. By doing so, he assumes that the healthy change in lifestyle will ultimatly make the cells dissipate.This is just going to assist me in taking that step toward staying fit. I know what to expect and im just looking for healthy gains and to look good in the process. So instead of me telling everyone what i plan to do, i am now asking for advice on what i should do. Kelkil, do you have any better advice on what i should and/or shouldnt do?