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    Quote Originally Posted by Farhad.ganji View Post
    Just finished my first cycle of HGH 5iu/day + 10 weeks of test E @ 350mg/week + HCG during cycle + proper pct.

    I have gained around 22 lbs which is not ideal for me since I do boxing and CrossFit and gaining that much weight will be disadvantage somehow. (my current body fat 8-9%).
    I do CrossFit @ 5am and boxing in the afternoon for 5 days/week. (Rest days: swimming/hiking)

    I have a plan to start my second cycle within 10-12 weeks from now on, and wondering to get some idea what should be my second cycle with minimal dosage to mainly increase my strength + endurance and have little/no impact on my weight.
    Generally gaining muscle comes down to food… So that’s down to you and your diet. Seeing as this is your second cycle, Test and maybe a kick starter like Anavar would suit you well for your goals. Anavar is great from lean gains and strength, combined with a base of test.

    Something like 50mg Anavar ED x6 weeks, 12 weeks Test E 500-600mg P/W.

    What PCT did you run with your last cycle, if it worked well then use this again. Did you get blood work?
    Last edited by Eduke93; 05-21-2018 at 05:40 AM. Reason: Spelling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eduke93 View Post
    Generally gaining muscle comes down to food… So that’s down to you and your diet. Seeing as this is your second cycle, Test and maybe a kick starter like Anavar would suit you well for your goals. Anavar is great from lean gains and strength, combined with a base of test.

    Something like 50mg Anavar ED x6 weeks, 12 weeks Test E 500-600mg P/W.

    What PCT did you run with your last cycle, if it worked well then use this again. Did you get blood work?
    During cycle I run aromasin @6.25 ED + HCG @250mg/twice a week.
    PCT: Nolvadex 20-20-10-10.

    By the way, I prefer to take injection instead of pills since I have one kidney. Can you give me an alternative for anavar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farhad.ganji View Post
    During cycle I run aromasin @6.25 ED + HCG @250mg/twice a week.
    PCT: Nolvadex 20-20-10-10.

    By the way, I prefer to take injection instead of pills since I have one kidney. Can you give me an alternative for anavar?
    Could use some masteron instead.

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    You're upset that you gained 22 pounds on cycle and you're still at 8% body fat what the fuck is to be upset about because you can't do CrossFit anymore?

    You should feel good you gained 22 pounds of pure muscle if you're at 8% body fat CrossFit for people who aren't huge the huge guys lift real weights I don't dangle from rubber band from a pull-up bar or do parallettes underneath the squat rack one-legged

    You gained 22 pounds on a 350mg week cycle, your a badass . I wish I can gain 22 pounds in 2 months and stay under 10% body fat you're a lucky guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by m.hornbuckle View Post
    You're upset that you gained 22 pounds on cycle and you're still at 8% body fat what the fuck is to be upset about because you can't do CrossFit anymore?

    You should feel good you gained 22 pounds of pure muscle if you're at 8% body fat CrossFit for people who aren't huge the huge guys lift real weights I don't dangle from rubber band from a pull-up bar or do parallettes underneath the squat rack one-legged

    You gained 22 pounds on a 350mg week cycle, your a badass . I wish I can gain 22 pounds in 2 months and stay under 10% body fat you're a lucky guy
    I mainly train crossfit just because to increase my strenght and endurance in boxing and gaining weight means moving up in different weight classes.

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    well if you want to gain strength only.

    primo
    anavar
    halo
    tbol
    winny is not ideal for you being a boxer, cuzz its hard on joints n tendons.

    add 250 mg test with one or 2 of those dht compounds at high dose.

    id go ; test 250 mg, mast 600 mg and maybe some tbol in front and var on back end

    really though, you should do the same cycle you did just now, it worked, and it worked great.

    steroids are going to build muscle, and from what you said, you had your cycle dialed in perfectly. very conservative dose, short duration, explosive gains with minimal body fat

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    Just saw that you have one kidney... If your weight increase of 22lbs is in fact accurate, then the ONLY possible explanation is that you're holding ~15 lbs of water and since you only have one kidney that actually sounds feasible.

    Growth hormone will make you retain water, so will Test to some degree.. There's no way on God's green earth you gained 22 lbs of muscle in 10 weeks, even half of that is impossible! So the other explanation would be fat gain, but since you're allegedly under 10% bf you clearly didn't gain weight in fat.

    So....something is off here. If an individual gains 5-7 lbs of muscle in 10 weeks I would consider that an EXTREMELY successful cycle. So let's assume you did gain 7 lbs of muscle, that still leaves 15 lbs unaccounted for.

    The only other thing could be water. Are you with me..? So unless your figures are off (which is likely the case) you're holding an extraordinary amount of water. You may want to look in to reducing your sodium and sugar intake, increasing your water intake, and possibly trying a mild diuretic as well. Dandelion root is a natural diuretic and may help you. I'd be careful though being that you're already missing a kidney!
    Last edited by AlphaMindz; 05-22-2018 at 11:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMindz View Post
    Just saw that you have one kidney... If your weight increase of 22lbs is in fact accurate, then the ONLY possible explanation is that you're holding ~15 lbs of water and since you only have one kidney that actually sounds feasible.

    Growth hormone will make you retain water, so will Test to some degree.. There's no way on God's green earth you gained 22 lbs of muscle in 10 weeks, even half of that is impossible! So the other explanation would be fat gain, but since you're allegedly under 10% bf you clearly didn't gain weight in fat.

    So....something is off here. If an individual gains 5-7 lbs of muscle in 10 weeks I would consider that an EXTREMELY successful cycle. So let's assume you did gain 7 lbs of muscle, that still leaves 15 lbs unaccounted for.

    The only other thing could be water. Are you with me..? So unless your figures are off (which is likely the case) you're holding an extraordinary amount of water. You may want to look in to reducing your sodium and sugar intake, increasing your water intake, and possibly trying a mild diuretic as well. Dandelion root is a natural diuretic and may help you. I'd be careful though being that you're already missing a kidney!
    I can scan and send a my body composition analysis if it helps, but I'm quite sure that I mainly gain muscle mass. I have really strict diet and already limited my sugar and sodium so don't think it is water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m.hornbuckle View Post
    well if you want to gain strength only.

    primo
    anavar
    halo
    tbol
    winny is not ideal for you being a boxer, cuzz its hard on joints n tendons.

    add 250 mg test with one or 2 of those dht compounds at high dose.

    id go ; test 250 mg, mast 600 mg and maybe some tbol in front and var on back end

    really though, you should do the same cycle you did just now, it worked, and it worked great.

    steroids are going to build muscle, and from what you said, you had your cycle dialed in perfectly. very conservative dose, short duration, explosive gains with minimal body fat
    I don't really quite get that what do you mean by "tbol infront and var in back" does it mean that if I have a 10 week cycle from week 1-5 go with Tbol and then from then anavar?

    What I'm really looking to have a minimal dosage to increase a little gain so I can take control it and reduce it if necessary but mainly focus on my strength and endurance. Is any of the mentioned AAS have any impact on cardio endurance?

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