Second cycle advice (limiting gaining weight)

[ScotchGuard02]

Just finished my first cycle of HGH 5iu/day + 10 weeks of test E @ 350mg/week + HCG during cycle + proper pct.

I have gained around 22 lbs which is not ideal for me since I do boxing and CrossFit and gaining that much weight will be disadvantage somehow. (my current body fat 8-9%).
I do CrossFit @ 5am and boxing in the afternoon for 5 days/week. (Rest days: swimming/hiking)

I have a plan to start my second cycle within 10-12 weeks from now on, and wondering to get some idea what should be my second cycle with minimal dosage to mainly increase my strength + endurance and have little/no impact on my weight.

Run 300mg/wk Test Prop + 300mg/wk of Mast Prop for 8 weeks. Both compounds hold little water and Mast doesn't amortize. Control your salt intake (1500mg/ed or less). You do a ton of cardio based exercise so you should eat 40% of your diet in clean carbs.

[Farhad.ganji]

Run 300mg/wk Test Prop + 300mg/wk of Mast Prop for 8 weeks. Both compounds hold little water and Mast doesn't amortize. Control your salt intake (1500mg/ed or less). You do a ton of cardio based exercise so you should eat 40% of your diet in clean carbs.

Is there any reason to switch from Test E to Test Prop ? By the way do you think it's a good idea to run 2.5iu HGH along with and continue it for 6 month?

[ScotchGuard02]

Is there any reason to switch from Test E to Test Prop ? By the way do you think it's a good idea to run 2.5iu HGH along with and continue it for 6 month?

The main reason is that you're trying to be as lean as possible. The Prop, short ester, will hold less water than Enth, the long ester. As for the HGH, you're young and the gains from the 2.5iu/ed for 6 months probably won't be worth the money.

[Farhad.ganji]

The main reason is that you're trying to be as lean as possible. The Prop, short ester, will hold less water than Enth, the long ester. As for the HGH, you're young and the gains from the 2.5iu/ed for 6 months probably won't be worth the money.

Thanks - I just thought after 30 will be a great time to start using hgh, I also can increase it to 4iu for 4 month. The main reason for me to take hgh to control my body fat and also I have a better recovery/feeling when I’m on it.

[Couchlockd]

Run 300mg/wk Test Prop + 300mg/wk of Mast Prop for 8 weeks. Both compounds hold little water and Mast doesn't amortize. Control your salt intake (1500mg/ed or less). You do a ton of cardio based exercise so you should eat 40% of your diet in clean carbs.

I've red mixed opinions on this

Some people say the short Esters hold less water and some people say the long Esters hold less water

What in the shorter Ester hold more water cuz it releases its drug quicker therefore causes more aromatization? I'm not disagreeing I'm just genuinely curious because I prefer to pick compounds that hold less water any insight on this would be great and also helpful to the original poster

[ScotchGuard02]

I've red mixed opinions on this

Some people say the short Esters hold less water and some people say the long Esters hold less water

What in the shorter Ester hold more water cuz it releases its drug quicker therefore causes more aromatization? I'm not disagreeing I'm just genuinely curious because I prefer to pick compounds that hold less water any insight on this would be great and also helpful to the original poster

It takes water to break down the ester so the Test can be released into the body. Short esters require less water to break down and so your body retains less water.

[Couchlockd]

It takes water to break down the ester so the Test can be released into the body. Short esters require less water to break down and so your body retains less water.

thx.

so simple I've been searching for THIS answer for 2 years....

[Quester]

thx.

so simple I've been searching for THIS answer for 2 years....

Me too! I guess it happens systemically?

[Farhad.ganji]

Run 300mg/wk Test Prop + 300mg/wk of Mast Prop for 8 weeks. Both compounds hold little water and Mast doesn't amortize. Control your salt intake (1500mg/ed or less). You do a ton of cardio based exercise so you should eat 40% of your diet in clean carbs.

with your suggested cycle do I really need to run AI along with since you said it wont amortize? and what is the reason of choosing test Prop over test E?

[ScotchGuard02]

with your suggested cycle do I really need to run AI along with since you said it wont amortize? and what is the reason of choosing test Prop over test E?

300mg/wk of Test will amortize, it's the Mast that won't. For me, I found that anything over 150mg/wk (TRT dose) will increase my E2 to a point where I need an AI. 300mg/wk of Test isn't a ton but it's enough for you to take some AI to control the E2. Don't take too much AI at this Test dose or you'll crash your E2.

[Farhad.ganji]

300mg/wk of Test will amortize, it's the Mast that won't. For me, I found that anything over 150mg/wk (TRT dose) will increase my E2 to a point where I need an AI. 300mg/wk of Test isn't a ton but it's enough for you to take some AI to control the E2. Don't take too much AI at this Test dose or you'll crash your E2.

With my previous cycle (350 mg/week) I took 6.25 mg aromasin ED . Should I reduce it or the dosage is fine ?!

[Farhad.ganji]

With my previous cycle (350 mg/week) I took 6.25 mg aromasin ED . Should I reduce it or the dosage is fine ?!

For my second cycle I guess I'll go with ScotchGuard02 suggestion " 300mg test prop +300 mg of Mast" So Do i need to to keep the same dosage of AI?