Horrible Anxiety/Depression on cycle

[cousinmuscles]

38,76 divided by 59,8 = 64,8% = 35.2% difference fluctuation.

28,51 divided by 45,7 = 62,3% = 37,7% difference in fluctuation.

It is basic math. With ED prop you inject every 24hours wich is 50% of the active half life.

With E3.5D Enanthate you inject every 84 hours wich is 70% of the active half life.

Incorrect, you have never seen the pharmacokinetics graphs, enanthate keeps high 3 days post injection http://www.fertstert.org/article/S00...16)44543-7/pdf

Enanthate also leaves lots of residual esterified test, so that while 600mg would bring you at ~4000 ng/dl, at peaks, seven days post injection it will be just under 2400 https://www.physiology.org/doi/pdf/1...01.281.6.E1172

It's just facts

Will running a low dose mast for a year fuck you up somehow? I've heard of guys running it for years on their own little trt regimens without problem.

Yeah keep relying on your bros telling you what is fine.

I can sense that my CNS is somehow in overload. I have this constant underlying agression that i can't sustain in civilised society, like i want to go to war but i have to be a nice little guy walking around with flowers.

I'm wondering if perhaps my DHT and Test levels are to high for me to handle. Perhaps i should just quit the masterone and try a lower dose of test.

Or seek professional help.

[Fernande]

Incorrect, you have never seen the pharmacokinetics graphs, enanthate keeps high 3 days post injection http://www.fertstert.org/article/S00...16)44543-7/pdf

Enanthate also leaves lots of residual esterified test, so that while 600mg would bring you at ~4000 ng/dl, at peaks, seven days post injection it will be just under 2400 https://www.physiology.org/doi/pdf/1...01.281.6.E1172

It's just facts

Yeah keep relying on your bros telling you what is fine.

Or seek professional help.

I read both links. They say nothing about what we talked about. Only that enanthate and cypionate seem to be equal. That Enanthate keeps high 3days after injection says nothing at all.

I stay with my argument that ED prop injections are more stable and less fluctuating than e3.5d enanthate injections, unless you can show some evidence that the half life of enanthate actually is longer than 5 days by any certain mechanism.

[cousinmuscles]

I read both links. They say nothing about what we talked about. Only that enanthate and cypionate seem to be equal. That Enanthate keeps high 3days after injection says nothing at all.

I stay with my argument that ED prop injections are more stable and less fluctuating than e3.5d enanthate injections, unless you can show some evidence that the half life of enanthate actually is longer than 5 days by any certain mechanism.

Then learn to read.

[Fernande]

Then learn to read.

I did mr salty because hes wrong.

[cousinmuscles]

I did mr salty because hes wrong.

Sorry, you didn't need to read, just watch the graph on the first study and the table with test levels on the second study. LOL.

Good luck with whatever you're doing, seems I can't come to help for you.

[Fernande]

Sorry, you didn't need to read, just watch the graph on the first study and the table with test levels on the second study. LOL.

Good luck with whatever you're doing, seems I can't come to help for you.

I did watch the graph and i did read the whole study, word for word.

Again, either you lack intelligence or you can't tell me why the half life of enanthate actually is longer than 5 days.

[Mr.BB]

I did watch the graph and i did read the whole study, word for word.

Again, either you lack intelligence or you can't tell me why the half life of enanthate actually is longer than 5 days.

Cousin is one of the most intelligent guys around here, you are just embarrassing yourself.

Everyone knows longer esters will give more stable blood serum values.

[cousinmuscles]

I did watch the graph and i did read the whole study, word for word.

Again, either you lack intelligence or you can't tell me why the half life of enanthate actually is longer than 5 days.

Fair enough I have to guide you through this



Stop thinking half lives and math equations because this isn't a math equation, it's real life data on human subjects. Look how 3 days post injection it is still above 40ng/ml while the peak, 1 day post injection was barely 50.

On the second study, notice that 7 days post injection after 16 weeks on, there was enough residual test to keep levels at 2400 ng/dl. Know why deca will show a positive on a steroid test a year after you used it? Because it leaves a lot of residual deca in your system... It is not as simple as a math equation and a cool app that makes a graph, or just knowing one single piece of information - the half life, and then applying it in every case.

Keep an open mind and consider what you're here for. My advice is find a doctor who can prescribe you testosterone, don't rely on bathtub brews where you make your prayers every time you order hoping you'll get to survive and get real gear/get any gear at all. Have a doc monitor your bloods. Find the root cause of your issues and stop with the "do I need more DHT" hocus pocus crap.

[tarmyg]

I did watch the graph and i did read the whole study, word for word.

Again, either you lack intelligence or you can't tell me why the half life of enanthate actually is longer than 5 days.

Remember we are not dealing with radioactive isotopes here so half-lives is not super straight forward.

[Chrisp83TRT]

I did mr salty because hes wrong.

No reason to insult people that are trying to help you.
You are technically in this mess because you didn’t listen in the first place when people told you to do a b and c before and you are still fighting people that know their stuff . Trust me , be reasonable and take whatever advice you can get

[Fernande]

No reason to insult people that are trying to help you.
You are technically in this mess because you didn’t listen in the first place when people told you to do a b and c before and you are still fighting people that know their stuff . Trust me , be reasonable and take whatever advice you can get

Look dude, i'm having a discussion. Someone tells me i should learn to read. Now get the fuk out of here kid.

[cousinmuscles]

Even if there are residual test and the half life is not perfectly linear like it was some robot system with oil in it.

How do you know these things do not apply to propionate and that ED injections of propionate are less stable than enanthate e3.5d?

Like i said i read the studies word for word but i can't find the information you are relying on when you say that statement is "Incorrect".

Read this post https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...ml#post7394992

Look dude, i'm having a discussion. Someone tells me i should learn to read. Now get the fuk out of here kid.

Don't get yourself banned now let it rest and revisit the thread some other day in a different mindset and mood.