EQ PCT Questions

[ROME-IS-BURNING]

Here's my thinking. There's no denying Tren is way more effective, but the most I've ever put in my body is whey protein and creatine.

My theory is if you are going to drive race cars you want to start out with the test car Instead of jumping straight into the F1 Ferrari. I could be way off but that's how I look at it

[ghettoboyd]

Here's my thinking. There's no denying Tren is way more effective, but the most I've ever put in my body is whey protein and creatine.

My theory is if you are going to drive race cars you want to start out with the test car Instead of jumping straight into the F1 Ferrari. I could be way off but that's how I look at it

That’s why you want to start your first cycle with testosterone only because that’s the base of all cycles or the “test car” if you will...most compounds are derivatives of test...

[ROME-IS-BURNING]

Yeah that's what the first link I was provided with said. I'd be open to doing just Test, but it kind of depends on the availability of it.

I'm going third hand basically through a friend who is getting from his guy. So it's kind of a question of availability as well. He was EQ and tren for sure, but I'm not even sure if this guy has Nova clomid for sale on hand. I would assume he has just test as well. But according to that article it's basically the same (pct and ai/hgc) wise as running just test vs test and an anabolic. Why go through all that work and money for just test I guess is my question.

[Windex]

Yeah that's what the first link I was provided with said. I'd be open to doing just Test, but it kind of depends on the availability of it.

I'm going third hand basically through a friend who is getting from his guy. So it's kind of a question of availability as well. He was EQ and tren for sure, but I'm not even sure if this guy has Nova clomid for sale on hand. I would assume he has just test as well. But according to that article it's basically the same (pct and ai/hgc) wise as running just test vs test and an anabolic. Why go through all that work and money for just test I guess is my question.

- Source gear yourself. Relying on other people is setting yourself up to fail

- If you cycle without Test, which is stupid for 101 reasons, don't expect your dick to work.

- If you run into side effects and are running more than one compound you won't know which compound at what dose is causing the problems. This will lead to wasting half your cycle doing trial and error to fix the problem

- Don't buy AI or PCT compounds from an UGL - buy only pharmagrade. You can't leave estrogen control up to chance, unless you don't mind ending up with breasts and have a female friend to lend you bras.

- Equipoise is literally useless if you aren't injecting it into a horse for racing. I would argue it's more detrimental than beneficial because it jacks your Red Blood Cell count and Hematocrit levels (thickening of your blood).

- Remove Tren from your vocabulary until your 5-6 cycles in. Steroids have a ceiling, if you start with the strongest steroid you are already at the ceiling and have no where left to go. It also has the worst side effects.

- I would challenge your diet first and foremost. Post it up for review. Without an optimized nutrition program you are wasting your time and money with steroids.

- Stop listening to friends, bros on Youtube, etc and take the time to learn and educate yourself on everything from A-Z. This forum has all the documented literature necessary for you to build a foundation.

Once you understand how everything works, then invest time into finding a source for gear, then do blood work, then worry about cycling.

Very basic tips to follow. Failure to follow these guidelines will result in only an empty wallet on your end with nothing to show for it

[ROME-IS-BURNING]

Ok the spam filter is making it impossible to reply to you two but lll try.


Boyd
Yes I agree I was not ready for Tren, that's why I wanted EQ first, but I didn't realize it was such a trash product. Most of the online info spoke fairly highly of it.

Windex

I feel my diet has and is on point. I have it completely logged but I'm at work and don't have the specifics, but I maintain at around 3600 Cal 200g protein low fat fairly high carb, low sugar.

I do need to do more research this is true, but sourcing gear is kind of a mystery to me. I haven't a clue where to find a reputable internet provider, if there even is such a thing. Real life I live in a smaller area, and lift primarily at night. From what I've seen come through there I'm by far the most advanced guy in there, so it isn't just a case of 'go up to the biggest guy and make friends.' My friend lives in a bigger City so he has those connections.

I'm assuming you would also suggest just test for a beginning cycle or two.

Thanks both for the responses guys. I appreciate taking the time to type it out, and I am doing my best to listen, learn, and take it all into consideration.

[Windex]

Ok the spam filter is making it impossible to reply to you two but lll try.


Boyd
Yes I agree I was not ready for Tren, that's why I wanted EQ first, but I didn't realize it was such a trash product. Most of the online info spoke fairly highly of it.

Windex

I feel my diet has and is on point. I have it completely logged but I'm at work and don't have the specifics, but I maintain at around 3600 Cal 200g protein low fat fairly high carb, low sugar. This doesn't mean much out of context without stats. If you don't know what TDEE means, how to manage micronutrients, digestion, understand the differences between types of fat, etc, you aren't close to having an optimized diet.

I do need to do more research this is true, but sourcing gear is kind of a mystery to me. I haven't a clue where to find a reputable internet provider, if there even is such a thing. Real life I live in a smaller area, and lift primarily at night. From what I've seen come through there I'm by far the most advanced guy in there, so it isn't just a case of 'go up to the biggest guy and make friends.' My friend lives in a bigger City so he has those connections. This isn't a valid excuse to buy gear willy-nilly. I live down the street from the Arctic Circle, across from the middle of nowhere. The internet makes finding sources easy if you put in the effort, time, and work. We have a sticky on how not to get scammed.

I'm assuming you would also suggest just test for a beginning cycle or two. Always test only for first cycle for reasons mentioned in my previous post.

Thanks both for the responses guys. I appreciate taking the time to type it out, and I am doing my best to listen, learn, and take it all into consideration.

Above in bold

[ROME-IS-BURNING]

Tdee means nothing to me tbh. I have my #'s to where I know what I eat at maintenance. +400 cal to gain 1 lb every 1.5 weeks. -400 cal to lose 1lb every 2. If I want to heavy bulk double it, heavy cut double it, etc

1. Wake up. Protein shake. 2 bagels. 4 boiled eggs. 16oz milk
2. 4 hours later. Stacked ham sandwich (or peanut butter at times)
3. 4 hours later protein shake.
4. 2.5-3 hours later mass gainer- straight to gym
5. Bag of rice and chicken breast tenderloins straight after gym. 4 boiled eggs. 16 oz milk
6. 16 oz milk + protein shake. Bed
Almonds throughout the day when I get a little hungry. I eat this every day 6 days a week. 7th is cheat day so substitute in cheat meal for the dinner part.

Before you lambast me for all the shakes I work as an engineer on the RR. I'm on a train sometimes up to 12 hours a day. There's no room for me to carry a giant lunch box with all my stuff. Also the bathrooms on trains are worse than a porter potty at the shittest. Summer concert you've ever been to. I don't use them, so I've trained my body not to need to with this.

As far as not going 3rd person yeah I see your point. I'm already having trouble communicating trying to go through my guy to his guy. I don't have a power box though, safe to ship stuff to your home address?

I will be taking everyone's advice and running just test. Do you support the cycle listed on the beginners steroids link?