Proposed lean bulk cycle feedback

[IronClydes]

My best cycle was with Tren and TRT Test following Marcus diet prime prior to the cycle starting. There's no cookie cutter answer to your diet question as everyone is different. It's also dependent on training intensity and amount of cardio. Some people are also carb sensitive, some respond well to Keto. When it comes to nutrition, you really have to connect with your body and track as many variables as you can to get the best sense of what works for you.

Keeping a training log, using the mirror, taking progress pictures, and taking measurements is way more beneficial that a single number from a scale.

Thanks Windex. I was considering his prime Thai time around! Can you send me a shortcut to how it’s laid out, or re-state for me?


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[Windex]

Thanks Windex. I was considering his prime Thai time around! Can you send me a shortcut to how it’s laid out, or re-state for me?


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This is the thread:

https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...e-cycling.html

Below is the way I did it:

Example:

Lets say my Macros at maintenance was 2500 cal with 240g P / 70g F / 228g C

[Pre-Cycle]:

Week 0 : High Carb days: 228g C, Low Carb days ~135g Carbs, replace missing calories with Protein. Stay at 2500 calories.
Week 1: High Carb days 265g, Low Carb Days ~160g, replace Missing calories with Protein. New caloric total is 2650
Week 2: High Carb days 290g, Low Carb Days ~174g, replace missing calories with Protein. New caloric total is 2750
Week 3: High Carb days 315g, Low carb days ~189g, replace missing calories with Protein. New caloric total is 2850
Week 4: High Carb days 340g, Low Carb days ~204g. Replace missing calories with Protein. New caloric total is 2950

[Cycle Starts here]
Week 5-X

I kept my TRT at 150mg/week with Tren Ace at 350mg/Week (50mg ED) and on high carb days I pinned 50mg Test Suspension ~1.5 hours Preworkout. If you do something similar my advice to save yourself a big headache is pre-plan how you are going to meal prep for the prime and write down all the food changes in a spreadsheet or journal of some sorts (for example if you are adding 1/4th Cup of rice to add more carbs or whatever the case may be). I regret not doing that as it would have saved me a lot time rather than trying to plan 1 week at a time with macros changing. For my training, everything was to maximum failure - either drop sets, supersets, assisted negatives, and reduced rest time. I didn't have a training partner but rotated between a couple of guys that always trained at the same time as me in lieu of not having a dedicated partner.

[IronClydes]

This is the thread:

https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...e-cycling.html

Below is the way I did it:

Example:

Lets say my Macros at maintenance was 2500 cal with 240g P / 70g F / 228g C

[Pre-Cycle]:

Week 0 : High Carb days: 228g C, Low Carb days ~135g Carbs, replace missing calories with Protein. Stay at 2500 calories.
Week 1: High Carb days 265g, Low Carb Days ~160g, replace Missing calories with Protein. New caloric total is 2650
Week 2: High Carb days 290g, Low Carb Days ~174g, replace missing calories with Protein. New caloric total is 2750
Week 3: High Carb days 315g, Low carb days ~189g, replace missing calories with Protein. New caloric total is 2850
Week 4: High Carb days 340g, Low Carb days ~204g. Replace missing calories with Protein. New caloric total is 2950

[Cycle Starts here]
Week 5-X

I kept my TRT at 150mg/week with Tren Ace at 350mg/Week (50mg ED) and on high carb days I pinned 50mg Test Suspension ~1.5 hours Preworkout. If you do something similar my advice to save yourself a big headache is pre-plan how you are going to meal prep for the prime and write down all the food changes in a spreadsheet or journal of some sorts (for example if you are adding 1/4th Cup of rice to add more carbs or whatever the case may be). I regret not doing that as it would have saved me a lot time rather than trying to plan 1 week at a time with macros changing. For my training, everything was to maximum failure - either drop sets, supersets, assisted negatives, and reduced rest time. I didn't have a training partner but rotated between a couple of guys that always trained at the same time as me in lieu of not having a dedicated partner.

Exactly what I needed. Thank you, Windex. I hadn’t considered the test suspension. My plan with what I will have will revolve around Tren E around 250-350/week depending on sides (sleep), Dbol of 50/day as a kickstart, and TRT of about 150/week.


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[IronClydes]

This is the thread:

https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...e-cycling.html

Below is the way I did it:

Example:

Lets say my Macros at maintenance was 2500 cal with 240g P / 70g F / 228g C

[Pre-Cycle]:

Week 0 : High Carb days: 228g C, Low Carb days ~135g Carbs, replace missing calories with Protein. Stay at 2500 calories.
Week 1: High Carb days 265g, Low Carb Days ~160g, replace Missing calories with Protein. New caloric total is 2650
Week 2: High Carb days 290g, Low Carb Days ~174g, replace missing calories with Protein. New caloric total is 2750
Week 3: High Carb days 315g, Low carb days ~189g, replace missing calories with Protein. New caloric total is 2850
Week 4: High Carb days 340g, Low Carb days ~204g. Replace missing calories with Protein. New caloric total is 2950

[Cycle Starts here]
Week 5-X

I kept my TRT at 150mg/week with Tren Ace at 350mg/Week (50mg ED) and on high carb days I pinned 50mg Test Suspension ~1.5 hours Preworkout. If you do something similar my advice to save yourself a big headache is pre-plan how you are going to meal prep for the prime and write down all the food changes in a spreadsheet or journal of some sorts (for example if you are adding 1/4th Cup of rice to add more carbs or whatever the case may be). I regret not doing that as it would have saved me a lot time rather than trying to plan 1 week at a time with macros changing. For my training, everything was to maximum failure - either drop sets, supersets, assisted negatives, and reduced rest time. I didn't have a training partner but rotated between a couple of guys that always trained at the same time as me in lieu of not having a dedicated partner.

And, once you started the cycle, just a regular daily diet with a moderate surplus? No more carb cycling I hope? Lol I don’t want to do that the whole time...too much thinking


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[Windex]

And, once you started the cycle, just a regular daily diet with a moderate surplus? No more carb cycling I hope? Lol I don’t want to do that the whole time...too much thinking


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You could continue to carb cycle or switch to a more traditional cookie cutter nutrition program. Going the pre-planning route either way saves you from having to think, just requires an afternoon of time and a calculator. It's really going to depend on your body since everyone is different. I don't know if the way I did it was the "correct" way but I knew by then how (1) my body handles Tren and (2) how I respond to carbs and used that information to tailor the program for myself as best as I could.

[IronClydes]

This is the thread:

https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...e-cycling.html

Below is the way I did it:

Example:

Lets say my Macros at maintenance was 2500 cal with 240g P / 70g F / 228g C

[Pre-Cycle]:

Week 0 : High Carb days: 228g C, Low Carb days ~135g Carbs, replace missing calories with Protein. Stay at 2500 calories.
Week 1: High Carb days 265g, Low Carb Days ~160g, replace Missing calories with Protein. New caloric total is 2650
Week 2: High Carb days 290g, Low Carb Days ~174g, replace missing calories with Protein. New caloric total is 2750
Week 3: High Carb days 315g, Low carb days ~189g, replace missing calories with Protein. New caloric total is 2850
Week 4: High Carb days 340g, Low Carb days ~204g. Replace missing calories with Protein. New caloric total is 2950

[Cycle Starts here]
Week 5-X

I kept my TRT at 150mg/week with Tren Ace at 350mg/Week (50mg ED) and on high carb days I pinned 50mg Test Suspension ~1.5 hours Preworkout. If you do something similar my advice to save yourself a big headache is pre-plan how you are going to meal prep for the prime and write down all the food changes in a spreadsheet or journal of some sorts (for example if you are adding 1/4th Cup of rice to add more carbs or whatever the case may be). I regret not doing that as it would have saved me a lot time rather than trying to plan 1 week at a time with macros changing. For my training, everything was to maximum failure - either drop sets, supersets, assisted negatives, and reduced rest time. I didn't have a training partner but rotated between a couple of guys that always trained at the same time as me in lieu of not having a dedicated partner.

So looking at Marcus Priming guidance, it reads that you rotate 3 low carb days (40% lower) and 1 high carb day (15% higher) with the goal of lowering carbs gradually up to the cycle start. However, you appear to be raising them gradually?


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