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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Sounds like you are over training. I am not sure what even do after 45minutes there to be honest. You don’t grow in the gym and not really even in the kitchen. You grow when you’re resting. The whole point of working out is to cause micro trauma which causes the muscle to be first broke down and then repair just a bit stronger than before.

    My thought is, try dropping some volume and even days. Focus on rest and recovery and make your workouts super focused and intense but have the amount of time.
    Why does everyone workout for an hour at the most in the gym, I have sessions where I'm in there for 2-3 hours sometimes and I'm making progress on my main lifts and accessory work
    But I do take my rest periods seriously and I rest for like 3-5 minutes in between sets.. I prefer longer training sessions rather than blasting through a gym session in 45 minutes

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    Why does everyone workout for an hour at the most in the gym, I have sessions where I'm in there for 2-3 hours sometimes and I'm making progress on my main lifts and accessory work
    But I do take my rest periods seriously and I rest for like 3-5 minutes in between sets.. I prefer longer training sessions rather than blasting through a gym session in 45 minutes
    Basically what I said above. More does not always equal better. Too much training stimulus can inhibit or even decrease gains. Both on the cellular and neurological level. Everyone is a little different but not drastically. Some need a bit more and some need a bit less. But 1.5-2 hours/day 6x/week and still making gains or not overtraining. That person would be an extreme outlier. I myself use to lift for 1.5hrs a day. I was always hurt, always sore and never made much progress. Luckily for me, graduate school and life limited my time allotment for the gym. I won’t go back to those session again. I gain nicely and train injury free now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Basically what I said above. More does not always equal better. Too much training stimulus can inhibit or even decrease gains. Both on the cellular and neurological level. Everyone is a little different but not drastically. Some need a bit more and some need a bit less. But 1.5-2 hours/day 6x/week and still making gains or not overtraining. That person would be an extreme outlier. I myself use to lift for 1.5hrs a day. I was always hurt, always sore and never made much progress. Luckily for me, graduate school and life limited my time allotment for the gym. I won’t go back to those session again. I gain nicely and train injury free now.
    Yea i hear you. I have too much time on my hands so being in the gym and hitting 2 hours is something I have always done, those 45min-1hr workouts seem to me like I'm rushing through everything just to get it in
    The other week I hit maybe an hour and 30 minutes only and left, I knew i had more in the tank and could have gone a little longer till muscle failure... I prefer to leave the gym destroyed and positive
    Maybe its just me

    Its a mental thing for me, I want to leave the gym with no doubt in my mind. If the next day I'm to sore than it means a nice rest day or two is due for me
    The only thing I still have trouble recovering from is if I hit the calves too hard I wont walk right for a week
    My calves need some work but I neglect them and only hit them every few weeks
    Seated calf work and standing calf raise is all i have access to
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    i hate feeling rushed then i seem to half a** things to finish on time.

    also another issue is after my first year i rarely feel sore only after a good leg day. even yesterday after dead lifting i hit a pr 475x1 and attempted 500 (made it 4-6" off the ground) i dont even feel like i lifted. i have tried slowing down and lighter weight but nothing helps if i train the same muscle group too soon i defiantly feel fatigued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99JT View Post
    i hate feeling rushed then i seem to half a** things to finish on time.

    also another issue is after my first year i rarely feel sore only after a good leg day. even yesterday after dead lifting i hit a pr 475x1 and attempted 500 (made it 4-6" off the ground) i dont even feel like i lifted. i have tried slowing down and lighter weight but nothing helps if i train the same muscle group too soon i defiantly feel fatigued.
    Soreness is not a good indicator of workout quality. ESPECIALLY if you are a trained individual. You in reality should not get sore doing the same program after the adaption period. If you are routinely getting sore after typical workouts then that is the number one indicator of overtraining syndrome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Soreness is not a good indicator of workout quality. ESPECIALLY if you are a trained individual. You in reality should not get sore doing the same program after the adaption period. If you are routinely getting sore after typical workouts then that is the number one indicator of overtraining syndrome.
    How do people actually over train then? Is it because of heavy work load or training 6 days a week consistently until the body can't recovery the same way
    Why would you train over 4-5 days than if thats the case??

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    How do people actually over train then? Is it because of heavy work load or training 6 days a week consistently until the body can't recovery the same way
    Why would you train over 4-5 days than if thats the case??
    The simple answer is that your body hasn’t had enough time to properly recover from the last bout of exercise. So your breaking down a body part that is still broken down and now it’s even further behind. If you continue to train at the same intensity, volume and duration the body will cease being able to build muscle and strength.

    This is different for everyone of course but there are key indicators. Most commonly lack of progress, soreness,repetitive stress type injuries, raised muscle cell enzymes, decreased T levels, increased stress hormone, lethargy, fatigue, weight loss, appetite lose, bone density changes, stress fracture, hair lose. Just to name some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99JT View Post
    i hate feeling rushed then i seem to half a** things to finish on time.

    also another issue is after my first year i rarely feel sore only after a good leg day. even yesterday after dead lifting i hit a pr 475x1 and attempted 500 (made it 4-6" off the ground) i dont even feel like i lifted. i have tried slowing down and lighter weight but nothing helps if i train the same muscle group too soon i defiantly feel fatigued.
    This also happens to me, ever since starting TRT it seems like when I do workout heavy and often my body is just used to it and I'm not really that sore at all. I hit squats, deadlifts, back and leg press/hamstring curl/quads and some goblet squats using 75lb kettle bell to get the hamstrings/quads fired up yesterday and that leg/back day didn't take much out of me. I feel fine and even if you legs or back is a little sore its not like training natural for a long time and having to recover for three days after a heavy leg day since your glutes are fried, hamstrings are so fucked up you're barely sitting down to drop a log.. serious gear is a life changer even if on a lowish dose of TRT.
    I'm not really that sore today and I even went heavy on back with wide grip/close grip lat pull downs,seated row up to heavy weight for a few sets, than seated row with a weird angle/grip
    It just seems I don't get that sore often if ever. I don't know if its because I'm not doing tons and tons of sets or what but I'm not that sore after ending a gym session. Only issues I have had is extreme tired/sluggishness after hitting legs/back heavy but not really sore..

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